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Old 03-21-2013, 11:08 PM   #3961
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I don't know about the stalling issues as we've not had that happen, but when we've dropped the bike (while very hot) it was necessary to turn the bike off then back on or it wouldn't start. Once I hear the fuel pump kick on it always starts right up, but without "resetting" the bike it will just turn over and over. I thought the tip over sensor has to get reset to kick the fuel pump back on.

How/when did it re-start?
Did you cycle the ignition key?





You did the stage one mod kit during break in? It hasn't had the first service yet then, how many miles without the mods did it have before you installed them?
Maybe that could have to do with your stalling, though I think Kiwi has had similar unresolved occasional stalling issues, but also before the 600 mile break in period was done I think. Not sure if a fuel controller could effect how the ECU "learns" on a new bike. Maybe someone with better understanding of the black arts of FI can comment.


Sorry to hear of your troubles, good luck getting it sorted.
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Old 03-22-2013, 02:53 AM   #3962
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Thanks for the warm welcome Lost Rider. To answer your question, no I'm not able to take the motorcycle saftey course at this time. It's only on weekends and I drive a charter bus. Weekends I'm always running. Currently im on my permit. I did get the rest of my gear, pants, jacket, gloves, boots and helmet. I ordered from Motor Cycle Super Store. Shipping was fast.

Kind of a newbie question I know but what's the best fuel to use in my CRF? I'm at 35 miles right now and I'm still using the fuel it came with. The dealer said I could use regular, mid grade or premium. I'm wondering what the best choice is.

Thanks again for the welcome.
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:09 AM   #3963
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I believe it is behind the horn and over flow bottle. I have seen a post on this somewhere

I would remove your plastics from the right hand side as I don't think the guy had to remove the tank. Maybe lift it a little as I am sure it is tucked up out of the way.
Right where you said!! Thanks man! It was all done under 15 minutes! My flashers are no longer in rush!!
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:34 AM   #3964
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Thanks for the warm welcome Lost Rider. To answer your question, no I'm not able to take the motorcycle saftey course at this time. It's only on weekends and I drive a charter bus. Weekends I'm always running. Currently im on my permit. I did get the rest of my gear, pants, jacket, gloves, boots and helmet. I ordered from Motor Cycle Super Store. Shipping was fast.

Kind of a newbie question I know but what's the best fuel to use in my CRF? I'm at 35 miles right now and I'm still using the fuel it came with. The dealer said I could use regular, mid grade or premium. I'm wondering what the best choice is.

Thanks again for the welcome.

You're welcome!
Right on, I understand working on weekends.... gots to pay for the bike!

If you can ever swing taking a day off it's a good investment with your time and some insurance companies give discounts for completing the course, offsetting lost work time loot.


As for fuel, when riding solo or just filling the LRP we use regular, when we're fueling together and I'm on the berg' we put premium in it cause the high strung berg' has to have premium. I remember discussions about running premium gas in bikes that don't call for it and the consensus seemed to be it won't hurt it at all, but it also wont give it any gains and therefore is just costing more in gas for no reason. I'm sure there's many points of views on it, like oil, but I can't feel any difference between using regular or premium in the LRP.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:03 AM   #3965
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Thanks for the warm welcome Lost Rider. To answer your question, no I'm not able to take the motorcycle saftey course at this time. It's only on weekends and I drive a charter bus. Weekends I'm always running. Currently im on my permit. I did get the rest of my gear, pants, jacket, gloves, boots and helmet. I ordered from Motor Cycle Super Store. Shipping was fast.

Kind of a newbie question I know but what's the best fuel to use in my CRF? I'm at 35 miles right now and I'm still using the fuel it came with. The dealer said I could use regular, mid grade or premium. I'm wondering what the best choice is.

Thanks again for the welcome.
I see you are from NJ, be careful! People are crazy around here!!! They do the MSF course at Millville motorsports park during the week and weekends! I found the first day ridiculously boring but the second day was good. You get a license at the end which was my main reason for taking it! They go over some really good techniques and such that I felt made it worth it.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:07 AM   #3966
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Page 99 of the owners manual discusses restart after a tipover. Basically key off, stand it up, key on, restart. And...as lost rider says, don't bother to hit the key if you don't hear the fuel pump cycle on/off for fuel system prepressurization.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:56 AM   #3967
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Right where you said!! Thanks man! It was all done under 15 minutes! My flashers are no longer in rush!!
Good deal !!! and Happy to help
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:35 AM   #3968
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Thanks for the warm welcome Lost Rider. To answer your question, no I'm not able to take the motorcycle saftey course at this time. It's only on weekends and I drive a charter bus. Weekends I'm always running...
The MSF instructors realize many people work on weekends, and can only take the rider safety class during the week. Therefore, I'm confident classes will later be scheduled during the week, especially after the riding season arrives in New Jersey. I strongly encourage you to contact the nearest MSF office to learn about the weekday classes.

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Old 03-22-2013, 03:34 PM   #3969
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I don't know about the stalling issues as we've not had that happen, but when we've dropped the bike (while very hot) it was necessary to turn the bike off then back on or it wouldn't start. Once I hear the fuel pump kick on it always starts right up, but without "resetting" the bike it will just turn over and over. I thought the tip over sensor has to get reset to kick the fuel pump back on.

How/when did it re-start?
Did you cycle the ignition key?





You did the stage one mod kit during break in? It hasn't had the first service yet then, how many miles without the mods did it have before you installed them?
Maybe that could have to do with your stalling, though I think Kiwi has had similar unresolved occasional stalling issues, but also before the 600 mile break in period was done I think. Not sure if a fuel controller could effect how the ECU "learns" on a new bike. Maybe someone with better understanding of the black arts of FI can comment.


Sorry to hear of your troubles, good luck getting it sorted.

Ha, miles go by fast, don't really pay too much attention to how many miles I have, so ya it is up around 1000

The mods were all completed after break-in and first full service.

As far as the re-start. I did try and restart after the tip over, would not start, so I turned it off for a few seconds, turned on and started right up.
It always starts up right away after a stall. The stalls have happen as i cut the throttle. I am going to be more aware to see if there is a pattern that develops or if just random.
I guess if I just stay on the throttle, it will not be an issue.

The stalling pretty much just happened this last week end on one ride, so maybe it was just one of them things.
Anyway, if anyone has answers, love to hear them.
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:06 PM   #3970
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Exhaust Shield Bracket

I am looking for an exhaust shield bracket. The one that sits off the exhaust pipe by your leg, there is only one. It's the bracket that holds the exhaust shield in place. If you have changed out your pipe and do not want/need that bracket I need one.
Willing to pay for it and the shipping
Sorry do not know how to post up pictures. There is a picture of one in post 1997 by Ed@Ford.
He used the old one and made a new one for the 2nd needed bracket.
Or can send you a picture via email if wanted.

Any one have one just sitting around???

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Old 03-22-2013, 07:40 PM   #3971
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Ha, miles go by fast, don't really pay too much attention to how many miles I have, so ya it is up around 1000

The mods were all completed after break-in and first full service.

As far as the re-start. I did try and restart after the tip over, would not start, so I turned it off for a few seconds, turned on and started right up.
It always starts up right away after a stall. The stalls have happen as i cut the throttle. I am going to be more aware to see if there is a pattern that develops or if just random.
I guess if I just stay on the throttle, it will not be an issue.

The stalling pretty much just happened this last week end on one ride, so maybe it was just one of them things.
Anyway, if anyone has answers, love to hear them.
I have a CRF250l that stalled once during breakin (while slowing down to a stop, clutch in, shifting down through the gears) and has not done it since (I am coming up to 2000kms) and the CRF250l we have at work used to stall in the manner quite frequently but it seems to have gone away as it approaches 1500kms. I would recommend riding it relatively aggressively and pile on some kms. That should clear up the stalling- if not, take it back to the dealer!
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:09 PM   #3972
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Anyone having issues getting it into first gear? Downshifting from second to first sometimes does nothing, sometimes finds neutral and sometimes finds first? I only have about 200 miles on the thing so I am hoping it will get better.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:50 PM   #3973
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I have a CRF250l that stalled once during breakin (while slowing down to a stop, clutch in, shifting down through the gears) and has not done it since (I am coming up to 2000kms) and the CRF250l we have at work used to stall in the manner quite frequently but it seems to have gone away as it approaches 1500kms. I would recommend riding it relatively aggressively and pile on some kms. That should clear up the stalling- if not, take it back to the dealer!
I use it mostly off-road so it gets ridden pretty aggressively.
Good to hear it cleared up on it's own. It will teach me to feather the clutch to keep the rpm's up a bit, so it does not have a chance to stall.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:52 PM   #3974
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Anyone having issues getting it into first gear? Downshifting from second to first sometimes does nothing, sometimes finds neutral and sometimes finds first? I only have about 200 miles on the thing so I am hoping it will get better.
Yup- same thing happens to me all the time (and this happened on other motorcycles i've had as well) the technique to make this not happen is to plan ahead: for example, be in first gear as you roll into the garage, don't try and change form 2nd into 1st once you are stopped. Don't know if this makes sense, but it works for me. If not, you have to gently let the clutch out until it "finds" a gear and then shift.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:03 AM   #3975
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Leaking oil and stalling

Good day gents,

I hate this to be my first post but I bought my new 250l and took it down to Daytona Bike week. During the trip, I started getting a stall in lower revs. It would restart but it happened about 5 times randomly.

Then, I experienced the bike missing in higher rev 5 th gear. Furthermore, It was leaving a oil mark under the bike. Its losing oil somewhere and it will leave a few drips from engine guard drain hole. It's not coming from drain plug and its showing signs around clutch cover and shift shaft seal????

Back from trip and I had to drop it off at dealer. They found a nut sitting on case that had fallen off fuel pump at drop off. I'm waiting on what they find and hope to help someone else with finds.

Has anyone found any similar issues??????

I have worked for Honda dealership and sold Honda motorcycles past. I have never seen these kind of issues with new Honda.
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