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Old 03-23-2013, 10:21 AM   #2176
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See, now of all your tired diatribe, THAT WAS FUNNY!
and in some ways not far from the truth. I'm somewhat puzzled by the outrage of my less than ringing endorsement of asterisk. they seem to be a study in the defiance of logic. I'm not an EMT but I do work in an industry that has very close ties to first responders and healthcare in general as well as emergency healthcare. I have some basic medical understanding and I am BLS certified.

what defies logic is the asterisk mode of operation that seems to subscribe to get them back on the bike asap. so if that is the case, stay out of it. if a rider needs attention it will be pretty obvious. if he's had a run of the mill spill, again, give him space you are not part of the race. to swarm over a guy as if the outcome of that riders finishing position is paramount his medical condition be damned makes no sense from a medical perspective. that is why they make stiff neck collars and spine boards. to immobilize. I know a guy who fell off a scaffold and the other guy on the scaffold was all busted up. they both went to the ER but the focus was on the other guy. they finally got around to looking at the lesser injured guy and his pulse was WAY over normal his heart was racing. had been for an hour. asterisks mode of operation makes. no. sense. if they are going to get back on the bike and keep racing than they should stand back and wait until their services are really needed. not jumping out into the track for a routine biff where the rider is already obviously intact and functional. if your main objective is their medical well being you don't pick somebody up like they did with Chad Reed at Dallas last year and run with them. You just don't if an EMT did that at an accident scene he'd be sued and deemed an incompetent quack. my criticism of them is warranted and in the riders best interest and those who take issue with that really are oblivious to the facts. Asterisk clearly has no guidelines, no direction, and defy standard medical procedures on a regular basis. they need to be seen and not heard to a degree and stop acting like they have a monster energy jersey on and start acting like emergency medical technicians.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:29 AM   #2177
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I'm somewhat puzzled by the outrage of my less than ringing endorsement of asterisk.
Failing to agree with you is not equal to outrage.



Your perspective is proven cockeyed.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:31 AM   #2178
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Failing to agree with you is not equal to outrage.



Your perspective is proven cockeyed.
failing to acknowledge facts and refuting them is the same as outrage. asterisk medical personnel are not in the race and are not part of any race team.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:03 AM   #2179
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Washougal is tops for me as I've never been to the north west unless you count Montana and Glacier National as part of the NW and that track looks really cool.
Maybe some of our local, legal herb would mellow you out a bit too?!?
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:21 AM   #2180
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Old 03-23-2013, 01:06 PM   #2181
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failing to acknowledge facts and refuting them is the same as outrage. asterisk medical personnel are not in the race and are not part of any race team.

I find myself outraged that I agree with you!



Hey! How much snow is outside your door today?
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Old 03-23-2013, 01:57 PM   #2182
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Anyone know why Zak Bell didn't ride qualify?

Edit: had a crash in first practice.

Also CR22 is going to make a big announcement today. No one is saying what it is yet.
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:28 PM   #2183
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Also CR22 is going to make a big announcement today. No one is saying what it is yet.
James Stewart is joining him at Two Two Racing for the outdoor series.
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:53 PM   #2184
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Looks like our local #945 Stryker made the gate for the 450 heats.

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Old 03-23-2013, 03:03 PM   #2185
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Don't forget locals Phil Nicoletti & the Barcia kid!

So, how much snow you got Flug?
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:03 PM   #2186
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did you get that mx video game you mentioned a couple of weeks ago, flug?
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:18 PM   #2187
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Looks like our local #945 Stryker made the gate for the 450 heats.

Only 36 riders, everyone made it to the heats. Last week was only 44 riders in 450's.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:09 PM   #2188
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It doesn't happen hardly ever, but I agree with flug on the Asterisk calls. In the last couple of years I've seen way too many major impacts get dusted off and out back in the track, only to find out that they had major trauma.

I do not know of any emerg med pers who aren't watching this racing, seeing some of these crashes, and aren't wanting to collar and board the rider as soon as they've confirmed vitals.

The lawyers for the event must have written some pretty ironclad waivers for the riders (and parents) to sign to be able to avoid litigation.

Tonight's race might be interesting in this regard. I highly doubt that the asterisk crew are licensed up here, so they'd have to engage the services of the locals. Never paid attention to this before myself, but this sort of liability issue up this way can be a real bear if the Ministry gets involved.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:09 PM   #2189
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This 450 main is only 4 laps old & may be the best of the season!

...until RV takes the lead and we all kinda know what happens after that.
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