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Old 03-21-2013, 03:27 PM   #1
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Quebec riders, get your plate renewal yet?

Looks like the SAAQ is starting random sound level testing on the roads.
Nice fines for loud pipes...
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:38 AM   #2
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Plate renewal

Got mine yesterday. $1115.06 for my 2 bikes. Not cheep.

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Old 03-22-2013, 12:50 PM   #3
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Looks like the SAAQ is starting random sound level testing on the roads.
Nice fines for loud pipes...
Where did you see that, on the renewal form?



Go mine, give or take 900 for my two bikes, a GS and a DRZ!

Plus the extra 60 some for the privilage of the 6a class.

Plus insurance...

The overloard(s) thinks we all make the same money as him/them...

Not sure what is up with all the provinces acting so stupid with bikers. If you read the forums it seems to be a trend in Canadiastan.

This summer I met guy from Montana, if I recal correctly was bitching that his 10.00 fee would become annual and no longer for the life of the bike...

I do not see a reason for such disparity...
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Old 03-22-2013, 02:27 PM   #4
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not sure what is up with all the communist provinces acting so stupid with bikers. If you read the forums it seems to be a trend in canadiastan.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:07 AM   #5
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Where did you see that, on the renewal form?
On one of those papers that come with it that I don't usually read.

100$-200$ fines for loud pipes, 200$-300$ for refusal to test...

Checked out the web site for the SAAQ for how they're going to go about it.
http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/securite_...tocyclette.pdf

Only in French of course
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:21 AM   #6
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On one of those papers that come with it that I don't usually read.

100$-200$ fines for loud pipes, 200$-300$ for refusal to test...

Checked out the web site for the SAAQ for how they're going to go about it.
http://www.saaq.gouv.qc.ca/securite_...tocyclette.pdf

Only in French of course
Dude that 24 page document including the annexe is your tax dollars at work. It basicaly says your bike at idle can't be louder then 92 dBa. Your bike at 2500 RPM for a 1,2 or 6 cylinders and at 5000 RPM for 3 and 4 cylinder bikes can't be louder than 100 dBa. They also establish the testing procedure in lenght. It looks to be directed at the harley crowd if you look at the picture of the bike they use in the sketch...

I wonder if they will modify art 636 to includ the application of this new drivel.

Probably won't ever see it applied to me, my bikes are quiet, that phase of my life has been over for a while.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:29 AM   #7
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Not sure what ftfy means or why you added the word " communist " to my statement before quotting... But thank you and have a nice day
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:59 PM   #8
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Dude that 24 page document including the annexe is your tax dollars at work. It basicaly says your bike at idle can't be louder then 92 dBa. Your bike at 2500 RPM for a 1,2 or 6 cylinders and at 5000 RPM for 3 and 4 cylinder bikes can't be louder than 100 dBa. They also establish the testing procedure in lenght. It looks to be directed at the harley crowd if you look at the picture of the bike they use in the sketch...

I wonder if they will modify art 636 to includ the application of this new drivel.

Probably won't ever see it applied to me, my bikes are quiet, that phase of my life has been over for a while.
My French reading comprehension isn't too bad... I'm going to have to invest in a dBA meter and check my Superduke out, should be close.

2500rpm is pretty near idle for my bike
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:04 PM   #9
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Not sure what ftfy means or why you added the word " communist " to my statement before quotting... But thank you and have a nice day
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:53 PM   #10
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RE the sound testing.


If you look on the site, they have the document on how it should be tested.

First, they're limiting it to 100db. Second. The procedure is so complicated, there is no way they don't make a mistake. My advice, it they ask to test advise them you will be recording the procedure with your camera phone.

An example is that the bike must be in a center stand, wit a rubber isolator under the stand and it must be revved to 2500rpm. I dont have a centerstand or a tach on my wrr. I think they are looking at the pirate crowd witth their hardley drivables.

Take a look at the document.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:18 PM   #11
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RE the sound testing.


If you look on the site, they have the document on how it should be tested.

First, they're limiting it to 100db. Second. The procedure is so complicated, there is no way they don't make a mistake. My advice, it they ask to test advise them you will be recording the procedure with your camera phone.

An example is that the bike must be in a center stand, wit a rubber isolator under the stand and it must be revved to 2500rpm. I dont have a centerstand or a tach on my wrr. I think they are looking at the pirate crowd witth their hardley drivables.

Take a look at the document.

I believe the video is probably a good idea.

However my interpretation is different. 6.1.2 states the driver holds the bike upright...... 4.6 mentions about an external tach... I never herd of that but.... It also mentions that the bikes tach can be used...

I agree this is for the harley pipes.

If you read it again show me where they mention the center stand and rubber... I saw something similar concering the microphone though.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:50 PM   #12
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I didn't see the reference to an external tach. I'm not letting anyone do anything to my bike. They can hold a mic whereever tthey are, but they can't connect anything.

I think it is unreasonable to ask an owner to hold the bike upright and rev the engine.

The part with the stand is near the section with the diagrams, it is in both the cyclomoteur and motocyclette section...just going off memory and i'm too lazy to look it up

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I believe the video is probably a good idea.

However my interpretation is different. 6.1.2 states the driver holds the bike upright...... 4.6 mentions about an external tach... I never herd of that but.... It also mentions that the bikes tach can be used...

I agree this is for the harley pipes.

If you read it again show me where they mention the center stand and rubber... I saw something similar concering the microphone though.
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:42 PM   #13
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Well ill admit it, I am French! And that document is absolutely full of loopholes for you or anyone that can read to dismiss the testing.
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I mean good luck to enforce it!

Plus I live next to a racetrack and the cars sometime go beyond 100db just driving. That in its self could dismiss the test!

To compare a siren on an emergency vehicle is set no louder then 96 db, so if you think your bike at 2500rpm for 2 sec or even at 5000rpm for that matter exceeds a siren... Hope you have good earplugs!

Don't sweat it!

But you can see where our super crazy fees go to. University papers like this!!

Bravo!
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Old 03-28-2013, 04:54 PM   #14
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I didn't see the reference to an external tach. I'm not letting anyone do anything to my bike. They can hold a mic whereever tthey are, but they can't connect anything.

I think it is unreasonable to ask an owner to hold the bike upright and rev the engine.

The part with the stand is near the section with the diagrams, it is in both the cyclomoteur and motocyclette section...just going off memory and i'm too lazy to look it up
I guess you never heard of police sticking wire into the exhaust pipes to check for baffels. The SQ did it a bit, but it was more common from municipal agences. I wonder if this new mesure is to replace the wire bull shit!
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:57 PM   #15
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I wonder if I can get passed without my baffles
I can see this having the opposite effect, the fifteenth of March rolled around and all kinds of people were out with whatever because they were no longer required to have snow tires, sand and salt inches deep at intersections and another foot of snow on the way but the law said... These people, most of them would have waited for better weather/conditions pre snow tire law. I can see people now knowing what the laws about noise being, going out and getting as close to the limit as they can, that otherwise might have left things quiet.
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