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Old 10-26-2011, 04:36 AM   #16
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Order the DVD from the Bay and donate what you save from buying it from BMW to charity to feel better about it.
Seriously, the Haynes covers things pretty much as well as the DVD does and I have yet to find anything that would be considered a "gross error".
Does anyone have an example or two of the "gross errors"?
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:17 AM   #17
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I prefer the BMW manuals (or any manufacturer's) vs any DIY brand book. I am a very experienced mechanic and don't need the hand holding level of instruction that the DIY manuals provide. I also don't like when they fail to include a particular piece of information or a proceedure as they have deemed it beyond the ability of the home mechanic. I'll decide what's beyond me thank you, just give me the data. In fact, just give me the critical information, data and specs period.

I don't have an issue with the digital format of the BMW manual. I do have a computer in my shop (old desktop from the house that still works just fine). I print out the relevant sections for quick reference as I work, they get saved for the next time unless they are too soiled and smudged with oily dirty finger prints. The downside of buying the BMW manual, is they don't give you updates like the dealers get. But thats the same for a paper manual.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:54 AM   #18
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I wish the Hayes manual was in PDF format so I could put it on my iPad when I go out to the garage to work on the bike..

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Old 10-26-2011, 03:53 PM   #19
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Bmw dvd

One problem with both the paper and the DVD is that when BMW changes stuff ... we don't have the latest news....


I know that, for example, the clutch parts have changed and can not be mixed, the torque spec. for the front brake rotor has changed ... some of the changes are important stuff..............

I have Rev. #4 of the BMW DVD.
Anybody have a newer version?
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:36 PM   #20
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I bet you do have the clutch info. Go to the section: removing the clutch driver. 21 21 000. Then look at the preparatory work. Click on removing the pressure plate. There you have it and the reason I do not like this CD.
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:40 PM   #21
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Order the DVD from the Bay and donate what you save from buying it from BMW to charity to feel better about it.
Seriously, the Haynes covers things pretty much as well as the DVD does and I have yet to find anything that would be considered a "gross error".
Does anyone have an example or two of the "gross errors"?

Check out the thread started about the manual about this time last year: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632285

These posts specifically are people who found errors, others comment it may be possible for torque values to be different between manuals.
http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....0&postcount=14
http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....8&postcount=24
http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....7&postcount=16

Also... a huge advantage to the BMW manual is the CAD drawings and exploded diagrams for the bike. Pictures in the Haynes manual don't do it for me (I have one for my SV650), low quality black and white pictures on crappy paper IMO.
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Old 10-26-2011, 05:57 PM   #22
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You can run the DVD on a mac if you use an emulator. I used Parallels with a copy of XP I think it was. There was a thread about it on here somewhere.
True, but I dn't want to pay for a PC OS on top of the DVD just so I can look at it. making the DVD incompatible with Mac is a typical BMW thing. One of the things I don't appreciate about the company.
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Old 10-26-2011, 05:58 PM   #23
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Also... a huge advantage to the BMW manual is the CAD drawings and exploded diagrams for the bike. Pictures in the Haynes manual don't do it for me (I have one for my SV650), low quality black and white pictures on crappy paper IMO.
Leave you that. The pics in the Haynes Manual are indeed crap.
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:19 AM   #24
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I wish the Hayes manual was in PDF format so I could put it on my iPad when I go out to the garage to work on the bike..
Do you already own the Haynes manual? If so, I might have a solution for you... PM me.

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I have Rev. #4 of the BMW DVD.
Anybody have a newer version?
I have the same version you do, but my brother has version 5. When he gets around to it he's going to rip an ISO for me so I'll have the most updated version...
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:51 PM   #25
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If someone really wants he can print out BMW manual it just takes a lot of time to create good pdf from CD version.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:28 PM   #26
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DVD manual

Has anyone used this dvd manual?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-Motorcyc...70690747188%26
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:26 PM   #27
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Has anyone used this dvd manual?
It looks like the real McCoy! On eBay UK I have seen some that also look legit going for less money.

Make sure it is the latest revision level !!

BMW does not provide any registration process nor updates to registered owners which is a shame.
AFAIK the latest revision level is SIX

With regards to the digitized PDF version that would seem difficult. The actual data is stored on the DVD in some compressed / proprietary format and when you go to print out a procedure it gets "customized" based on the installed options that you have installed. There does not seem to be an easy way to just "dump" it to a printer.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:52 PM   #28
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I prefer the BMW manuals (or any manufacturer's) vs any DIY brand book. I am a very experienced mechanic and don't need the hand holding level of instruction that the DIY manuals provide. I also don't like when they fail to include a particular piece of information or a proceedure as they have deemed it beyond the ability of the home mechanic. I'll decide what's beyond me thank you, just give me the data. In fact, just give me the critical information, data and specs period.

I don't have an issue with the digital format of the BMW manual. I do have a computer in my shop (old desktop from the house that still works just fine). I print out the relevant sections for quick reference as I work, they get saved for the next time unless they are too soiled and smudged with oily dirty finger prints. The downside of buying the BMW manual, is they don't give you updates like the dealers get. But thats the same for a paper manual.

Hate to necropost, but I'm ordering a '13 F800GS and want to start boning up on my maintenance stuff.

I would rather have a legit manual, preferably from the factory. If the DVD is all that is available, I can make due, but with all the doo-dads and electronics, I would really prefer a factory manual with electrical flow charts and such. I prefer to do all work myself, as well as have an intimate knowledge of how the machine I carry miles off into nowhere-ville works, or doesn't work...
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:35 AM   #29
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I haven't found schematics for the circuits on the factory manual disc, but the Haynes has them in the back.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:12 AM   #30
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I haven't found schematics for the circuits on the factory manual disc, but the Haynes has them in the back.
I might check out the Haynes manual.
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