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Old 03-25-2013, 11:21 AM   #211
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I was with you until I read this. Why in hell would you even consider accelerating??!! You really want to maybe kill the pickup driver, his passengers, the oncoming truck because you don't like the way the guy drives? Wow. I thinks you need to learn to chill. Or don't drive. One or the other.

Reading Wraith's comments reminds me of an exhibit at the Science Centre here about 30 years ago. It was set up with a steering wheel, brake and gas pedals and two lights in front of you - one red, one green. When the green light was on, you applied gas. When the red lit up you hit the brakes as fast as you could. The resulting time was displayed. Almost NO ONE ever got below one second. Lots of young hot shots thought they'd have no problem. That exhibit was only dealing with reaction time - time to perceive and time to move foot. Even if you make the one second reaction you are still stuck with being one second behind in brake application. Oh well, another internet "discussion" where no opinions ever get alterred, regardless of how misguided.
I didn't accelerate...I'm not out to kill anyone....I was "chilled" as you say, you missed what I' saying...if I wanted to be an asshole I could have accelerated.. I let the douche bag go....he was the one driving dangerously not me. I think you need to understand whats being said and judge a little less....
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:31 AM   #212
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I didn't accelerate...I'm not out to kill anyone....I was "chilled" as you say, you missed what I' saying...if I wanted to be an asshole I could have accelerated.. I let the douche bag go....he was the one driving dangerously not me. I think you need to understand whats being said and judge a little less....
Fair enough.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:55 AM   #213
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Reading Wraith's comments reminds me of an exhibit at the Science Centre here about 30 years ago. It was set up with a steering wheel, brake and gas pedals and two lights in front of you - one red, one green. When the green light was on, you applied gas. When the red lit up you hit the brakes as fast as you could. The resulting time was displayed. Almost NO ONE ever got below one second.
They should've averaged ~0.8s, maybe there was something wrong.

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the loading of the front suspension that is required for maximum braking pressure
Easy workaround: Use both brakes.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:57 AM   #214
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They should've averaged ~0.8s, maybe there was something wrong.



Easy workaround: Use both brakes.
Are you on a cruiser or something? There's no workaround for loading weight on the front tire???
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:59 PM   #215
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It doesn't matter on what kind of bike you are. As long as the front isn't loaded, the rear is. It's not really a "workaround" but using both brakes to best effect.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:20 AM   #216
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It doesn't matter on what kind of bike you are. As long as the front isn't loaded, the rear is. It's not really a "workaround" but using both brakes to best effect.
Besides, using the front brake leads to immediately laying her down, as is known.

You guys really should not hand out dangerous advice such as using the front brake on a public forum.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:08 AM   #217
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Besides, using the front brake leads to immediately laying her down, as is known.

You guys really should not hand out dangerous advice such as using the front brake on a public forum.
Or countersteering........................
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:59 AM   #218
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I was with you until I read this. Why in hell would you even consider accelerating??!! You really want to maybe kill the pickup driver, his passengers, the oncoming truck because you don't like the way the guy drives? Wow. I thinks you need to learn to chill. Or don't drive. One or the other..
I'm pretty sure he means 'accelerate to keep the idiot in the truck in the other lane or behind him' not 'accelerate to get around granny.'

Its no one's job to be 'road police' or to 'teach someone a lesson.' Someone does something stupid? Let it go.

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Old 03-27-2013, 08:36 AM   #219
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Its no one's job to be 'road police'
No-one's?
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:27 PM   #220
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It was set up with a steering wheel, brake and gas pedals and two lights in front of you - one red, one green. When the green light was on, you applied gas. When the red lit up you hit the brakes as fast as you could. The resulting time was displayed. Almost NO ONE ever got below one second. Lots of young hot shots thought they'd have no problem. That exhibit was only dealing with reaction time - time to perceive and time to move foot.
WTF drives by using just one foot?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:38 PM   #221
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WTF drives by using just one foot?
Most Americans (probably) drive with their right foot only.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:20 PM   #222
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Most Americans (probably) drive with their right foot only.
If there's no clutch pedal, it makes sense to use the left foot for braking. I've always done this.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:25 PM   #223
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If there's no clutch pedal, it makes sense to use the left foot for braking. I've always done this.
If you drive BOTH manuals and automatics then you'll want to avoid left foot brakeing ... leads to applying the brake when you wanted the clutch ... any tailgater will get a shock!
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:26 PM   #224
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Everyone will crash someday if he rides indefinitely
I should know better than getting involved in the quest to make you see reason, but it seems your grasp on mathematics is equally lacking in 'real life' application, as your take on physics, considering how you justify your decision to tailgate other vehicles. So to say that everyone will crash someday if he rides indefinitely is as daft as walking into a casino thinking that you will ALWAYS win in roulette, provided you have unlimited funds and are always willing and able to double your bet after a loss. See, the thing is that no one LIVES indefinitely (and not even Bill Gates has an unlimited supply money). The question you'd have to ask yourself is - will my life EXPECTANCY be affected by my proposed action - in your case a decision to spend your time in traffic ONE SECOND behind the driver in front of you, rather than the recommended 3 seconds, and how will this effect your life expectancy (if you want to get philosophical about it, you could - some would say SHOULD, but far be it for me to judge -in fact ask yourself how it will affect your life QUALITY). You don't have to have a major in applied statistics to answer that you are NOT stacking the cards in your favor by eroding the safety zone in front of you down to bare bones. If nothing else - at least acknowledge that while riding you will have NO TIME AT ALL, to enjoy the ANY OTHER VIEW, than the brake lights of the vehicle in front of you. Hope they're nice and shiny
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:34 PM   #225
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at least acknowledge that while riding you will have NO TIME AT ALL, to enjoy the ANY OTHER VIEW, than the brake lights of the vehicle in front of you.
And no time to look for;
a side swipe,
street signs that point your route
GPS showing your route
Speed signs
Signs warning of hazards ahead (gravel, potholes, road construction etc)

In general you will be vulnerable to ALL other hazards... relying on your luck and the good will of others to keep out of your way.
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