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Old 03-28-2013, 05:46 PM   #1831
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I`ve seen it, cracks just behind the ball joint with one bike just because of landing. It doesn`t happen all the time, only few people do these things. Majority of GS (and VFR1200X) riders does not go off the road...
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:18 PM   #1832
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265-285kg?

What could go wrong?
Not much actually. I go riding off road a bit on the 265Kg Tenere with a 270Kg GSA. Those weights depend on how much fuel is left in the bikes of course. That's only at the beginning of the ride.

Anyway I was talking more about the stability in this kind of environment..


Not this kind of thing...


I think the Xtourer MAY be a bit fat for the last one. The GSA certainly is...
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:24 PM   #1833
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:45 PM   #1834
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Thanks for that. The interesting thing about that is it agrees with German mottorad regards the way ABS and traction control are set up on YAMAHA and Honda bikes VS "typical" European set ups.

Mottorad think the Honda (Fireblade) set up is the ducks guts at the time. Stability and progressive without loosing much in stopping distance.

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Old 03-28-2013, 08:37 PM   #1835
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Mottorad think the Honda (Fireblade) set up is the ducks guts right now.
Slight correction: 2 years ago. The systems have advanced since then. Probably everywhere but a new evaluation might be interesting.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:37 PM   #1836
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Slight correction: 2 years ago. The systems have advanced since then. Probably everywhere but a new evaluation might be interesting.
True. Fixed. It would be good to see how GEN9's are progressing. They can still be set up differently though.

Anyone know where the Honda system is sourced?
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:02 PM   #1837
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True. Fixed. It would be good to see how GEN9's are progressing. They can still be set up differently though.
Definitely. Those tests should get repeated yearly or so. Would be super interesting to see the improvements.
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Old 04-04-2013, 01:11 PM   #1838
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crosstourer in the united states ?

dear honda

why do you hate americans ? we want the crosstourer with automatic dual clutch transmission sold here in the usa . we will buy tons of crosstourers . please offer a black color option . get the crosstourer to the states NOW ! please .

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Old 04-04-2013, 01:25 PM   #1839
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dear honda

why do you hate americans ? we want the crosstourer with automatic dual clutch transmission sold here in the usa . we will buy tons of crosstourers . please offer a black color option . get the crosstourer to the states NOW ! please .

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We would like you to go to the expense of certifying, homologating and importing a large number of DCT Crosstourers to the USA. We will look at tons of them in the showroom, black or otherwise, but have no intention of actually buying them. At least not at a price that will make you a profit.

But get the Crosstourer to the States NOW, so that the five or six of us that will eventually buy them won't have to wait as many years to pick them up on deep deep discounts. I mean, it really sucked having to wait a year to get blow-out pricing on the VFR1200F DCT or the Canadian-market Varadero 1000.
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:08 PM   #1840
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After running through the Honda Corporate Translation Filter:
Often True.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:29 AM   #1841
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Still enjoying it! I've done 600 miles now and its going in for its first service next week.
Superb engine! So fast and so torquey yet feels happy to just plod along at 30mph in 3rd gear.. But that superb performance sure affects the economy! It drinks more than I do... Between 32-38 mpg so far..
But overall I love this thing. I can't think why I don't see more of these on London's streets. Instead its all BMW GS's, and not much else
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:09 AM   #1842
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Local dealer has knocked £1500 off the one they have. Can't shift it. Another local dealer has sold 2 since they were launched. Shame really. Seems to be even further off the buying public's radar than the Super Ten.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:32 PM   #1843
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Local dealer has knocked £1500 off the one they have. Can't shift it. Another local dealer has sold 2 since they were launched. Shame really. Seems to be even further off the buying public's radar than the Super Ten.
Paul what is the price point?
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:03 AM   #1844
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The list price in the UK is £11,495
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:34 AM   #1845
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My new Crosstourer

I got my manual Crosstourer three weeks ago and am loving it. Very sweet, smooth and powerful motor. 1500kms so far, almost all two up. Handles beautifully. Love it through the twisties. Had my first run on dirt roads on Sunday. It felt very secure. Only negative is the front suspension is very hard on potholes and corrugations. You really fell it through the handlebars. But the bike nonetheless still fells solid and secure. Turned the traction control off on the dirt and felt very comfortable powering out of corners. Just got to remember to turn it off again after stopping for photos! Can't wait to get my panniers and go for a trip. Brilliant, beautiful machine. Still haven't mastered the mono though. It comes up very quickly and easily, I've got to smooth out my throttle control.

Cheers, Carl



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