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Old 03-28-2013, 12:51 AM   #76
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I figured since it's a dry clutch and the engine oil is kept separate from the transmission oil, you could safely run any common "car oil" in the proper weight
The 1150 is, for all practical purposes, a car engine. Use any oil that fills the requirements.

I have used 10w-40 in winter and 20-50 in summer for a decade (and more than 100.000 miles).

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Old 03-28-2013, 05:49 AM   #77
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Forgive me... I'm new to the BMW boxer... recently bought an '03 1150GS. I figured since it's a dry clutch and the engine oil is kept separate from the transmission oil, you could safely run any common "car oil" in the proper weight. Does anyone run Mobil-1 15w50 in their GS? Any reason why I shouldn't?
If someone were to do a poll..and add up the results, I think you would find, 15W-40 is by far the most used..(or 15W-50) from Mobil or Delo or Rotello.

Diesel oils with high TBN numbers...
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:30 PM   #78
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I for one run 20-50 in the summer and in the colder months I run 15-40 HDEO like a rotella, Delo, delvac, etc.
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:55 AM   #79
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The Gear oil is Castrol SAF-XO 75w90 and dealers are getting it. In fact you can buy it for less then half at any Land Rover Dealer. I did and have it in my bike right now BMW charges $40 a quart for it, $16 at the Land Rover dealer.
And for what its worth my dealer will not put 20w50 in. I asked, they said no. 10w40 only now. Put 10 different dealers in a room and youll get 20 different opinions. I tend to lean on the factory directions. I mean they built it.
That is good information on the gear oil. I paid $42 fricken dollars for mine at the dealer but justified it figuring at leat 3-4 changes. Going to run by a Land Rover dealer to verify. Heck, I might buy a case and resell for profit!
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:13 AM   #80
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That is good information on the gear oil. I paid $42 fricken dollars for mine at the dealer but justified it figuring at leat 3-4 changes. Going to run by a Land Rover dealer to verify. Heck, I might buy a case and resell for profit!
Or...run to Wal Mart or, Amsoil, or Auto Zone, or...like the rest of us do.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:20 AM   #81
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I for one run 20-50 in the summer and in the colder months I run 15-40 HDEO like a rotella, Delo, delvac, etc.
I ran 20w-50 for 65,000 miles while living in the desert...at 70k, and living in Washington, I switched to 15w-40 Marine and Diesel. Both from Amsoil, installed originally at 600 miles. Bike was broken as if it were stolen. ZERO oil consumption problems..10,000 mile oil interchange intervals.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:50 AM   #82
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That is good information on the gear oil. I paid $42 fricken dollars for mine at the dealer but justified it figuring at leat 3-4 changes. Going to run by a Land Rover dealer to verify. Heck, I might buy a case and resell for profit!
It's true, been using the LR labeled gear oil for awhile now for FD and transmission.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:22 AM   #83
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Or...run to Wal Mart or, Amsoil, or Auto Zone, or...like the rest of us do.
Auto Zone does not list on their website, and last I checked Amsoil does not sell Castrol SAF-XO, pretty sure I will not find it at Walmart either, but I've been wrong at leat once before
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Auto Zone does not list on their website, and last I checked Amsoil does not sell Castrol SAF-XO, pretty sure I will not find it at Walmart either, but I've been wrong at leat once before
But they all sell 75w-90...in the proper grade..???

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Old 03-29-2013, 06:36 PM   #85
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Castrol SAF-XO is a specially formulated full synthetic. There are no "equivalents" and yes, it's not available at WalMart. USA availability is only at BMW and Land Rover dealers.

BTW, this oil is not now nor has it ever been recommended for the transmission--just the final drive.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:11 PM   #86
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I run the mobil 1 15w 50 and the bike gets great fuel economy and runs like a top, and oil consumption is minimal. I get it at Autozone. As for Tranny and Final drive oil, I have been using Royal Purple 85w 140 and rowing through the gears are silky smooth.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:47 PM   #87
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TaSK, My GSA has a build date of 2012-01. The owners manual lists several different weights of oil that are temperature related as in post #15 of this thread. My interactive DVD repair manual for R Models K2x GS 7th edition only lists one weight oil under service data. It is 15w-50. chip
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:57 PM   #88
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Castrol SAF-XO is a specially formulated full synthetic. There are no "equivalents" and yes, it's not available at WalMart. USA availability is only at BMW and Land Rover dealers.

BTW, this oil is not now nor has it ever been recommended for the transmission--just the final drive.


Strange, looking at their site, SAF XO is now SYNTRAX " a GL-5 lubricant compatible with all GL-5's"

GL-5 can be bought....ANYWHERE.


PS...SAF XO and XJ are European designations. May explain the scarcity here...ie..dealer only
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:25 AM   #89
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Castrol SAF-XO is a specially formulated full synthetic. There are no "equivalents" and yes, it's not available at WalMart.
That might be correct.
However, it is not how the world works.

A designer of any mechanical device which requires oil will design around come physical properties
of the oil. These properties are detailed in the requirements the oil must meet (or exceed).

In addition, BMW probably holds a bidding context among producers for the honour of being "recommended".
This year Castrol won that contest and paid the most, and BMW, this year, supplies their oil.

It might be true that some oil from some random producer is "special", but the engine and drive-train
is designed to run on any oil that meets the requirements. That is in fact the sole purpose
of requirements.

As a contrast: Do you really think BMW would restrict their global out.reach to those markets where
Castrol happens to be present?

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