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Old 11-18-2010, 06:59 PM   #226
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chinese bikes

This is great stuff. I bet that in 5 years we will see serious super sports from China. I hope they add their own ideas and push the concepts forward.

Check out the Sachs x-road.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:15 PM   #227
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new 2013 sachs MadAss 125

howdy guys,
2 new colors for the 2013 sachs madass green, and also a pearl orange/copper. the bikes are the same, except that they now come with a gas sensor that lights on the control modual when getting low on fuel. cheerz!

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Old 01-11-2013, 02:16 PM   #228
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army green madass 125 new for 2013

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Old 01-11-2013, 06:17 PM   #229
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Nice color choices!
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:15 AM   #230
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Originally Posted by moto-scoot bill View Post
hello sparky.....we have been doing the R&D on a dirt bike version all winter. we are getting pretty close, and so far so good.
this bike will have inverted forks with about 8"" travel, though we may slide them up to achieve a better rake and trail. we have not had it out on the dirt as of yet to be able to dial that in.
are rear shock is being made for us by YSS, with the proper rate, ect.
wheels are being sourced, and the fenders have already been done by our shop for years with a DOT approved rear fender, as seen in the photo.
THIS IS NOT OUR DIRT BIKE PROJECT IN THE PHOTO....just an easy tire, and fender swap. the dirt bike project will be full-on dirt!!!
the pipe is going to be a dirt bike style / up and off to the side style with a forest service approved spark arrestor.

guys,this is my pet project......old dirt bike guys unite!

Any details or pic's available of you full on dirt version?
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:02 AM   #231
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Hey Everybody,

I'm trying to determine the value of a 2006 Sachs Madass with a 150cc (non-electric start) lifan conversion. The owner says there is 953 miles on the bike, and about 500 on the lifan. It looks to be in good shape with 2 year old tires.

I am trying to determine the value, because I am interested in trading something of mine for it. I value my item at $1500 and I want to make sure that I have an even trade, otherwise, I would need to ask for some money along with it.

Here's some pics.

He mentioned that he took the air filter off to replace because of a torn boot and he said the battery cover was off, but he has it.



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My biggest concern is that as is, in my state of Michigan, it's seen as a 50cc "moped" and only requires the sticker for a moped (50cc/auto trans/30mph limit). This now has a 150cc manual shift engine on it. So I'm nervous about the issue of having problems with riding it as a moped while shifting/going faster or trying to get a plate for it with no title, since it was originally a non-titled "moped".
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Old 09-19-2014, 02:51 PM   #232
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ive seen plenty of newer 125cc models go for around same for a 50cc with no title. id say 1000 to 1200 .I now its the same bike basically .and performance would be similiar with the engine swap.. but.unless you know you wont get hassled by the law .why take the risk. check the marketplace/for sale forum on for bikes and prices to compare.
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