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Old 03-12-2013, 11:37 AM   #1216
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Why buy lead bullets? With a bottom dump lead pot and a lubricator-sizer, you can churn out bullets of any configuration at will. Why pay someone else to make your bullets?
Well, in my case, I live in an apartment and don't want to become brain damaged in order to save myself a couple hundred bucks a year

I think the better question is, why plated bullets? I don't see what advantages they have over lead bullets cast at the appropriate hardness for the application.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:41 AM   #1217
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Of course the only reason that we have components right now is because we buy in that kind of bulk. Berry's is 2 years behind on orders and Winchester isn't shipping primers until 2014 at the earliest. Competitive shooting is beginning to be a dying hobby right now due to the shortage. Last year I shot 50,000 rounds... this year it is looking more like 5,000 rounds.
I don't shoot very much so the components I have are about to load another 500 rounds or so of 38 Special, and that's probably enough to last me through the year (in addition to the few hundred I already loaded). But, I could see how this would cause a big problem for a competitive shooter. My biggest problem now is that I'm afraid to take other people shooting though I would like to - if somebody starts having fun, they could shoot a big chunk of my ammo and then that's that!
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:07 PM   #1218
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I don't shoot very much so the components I have are about to load another 500 rounds or so of 38 Special, and that's probably enough to last me through the year (in addition to the few hundred I already loaded). But, I could see how this would cause a big problem for a competitive shooter. My biggest problem now is that I'm afraid to take other people shooting though I would like to - if somebody starts having fun, they could shoot a big chunk of my ammo and then that's that!
Amen to that. I have done a lot of teaching and familiarization over the last 20 years.... most of that is on hold right now for that very reason.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:31 PM   #1219
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I have a decent stash socked away, and it will last a good while. When I quit shooting high power matches, I still had a shelf full of Matchking bullets and match primers and a couple 20 lb kegs of powder. I have M855 ball and GI ball in cans and .45 GI ball. The carry ammo I won't burn up. I can load and cast .38/.357, .44 and .45 Colt, and have .22 cal varmint and match bullets.
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Old 03-13-2013, 05:30 AM   #1220
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I don't shoot very much so the components I have are about to load another 500 rounds or so of 38 Special, and that's probably enough to last me through the year (in addition to the few hundred I already loaded). But, I could see how this would cause a big problem for a competitive shooter. My biggest problem now is that I'm afraid to take other people shooting though I would like to - if somebody starts having fun, they could shoot a big chunk of my ammo and then that's that!
It is just so hard to find the stuff, It seems like I have had 115g 9mm on order for years.

I have started a new system...for both the stuff I load and the rimfire stuff, for every box I shoot up I want to have two new boxes, in parts to reload or bought. For example at the last gun show there was a guy selling CCI 22 for $20 per brick...I bought three bricks and shot up an old one I had at home....I came out ahead on that deal....Just so darn hard to find.
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:04 PM   #1221
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It has certainly changed my perspective on buying ammo and components. I used to just buy stuff as I loaded and shot it, I will probably try to give myself a little bit more of a buffer zone now.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:30 AM   #1222
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I've been reloading .223 for my son and I to take out west to shoot prairie dogs in June. I had a great load worked up for 50 gr V-MAX but I ran out of bullets and ended up buying some 52 gr V-MAX. When I seat the bullets to the depth that our guns like (0.020" off the lands using a comparator) the COAL ends up being 2.290". This is 0.030" over the max of 2.26" I've seen listed and 0.040" over what the COAL has been for my 50 gr V-MAX loads. I tested an unprimed one in my Remington 700 and it chambers fine and fits fine in the magazine. I loaded up 10 to take to the range and test. Is there any reason to be concerned about being 0.030" over COAL?

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Old 03-30-2013, 09:35 AM   #1223
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I've been reloading .223 for my son and I to take out west to shoot prairie dogs in June. I had a great load worked up for 50 gr V-MAX but I ran out of bullets and ended up buying some 52 gr V-MAX. When I seat the bullets to the depth that our guns like (0.020" off the lands using a comparator) the COAL ends up being 2.290". This is 0.030" over the max of 2.26" I've seen listed and 0.040" over what the COAL has been for my 50 gr V-MAX loads. I tested an unprimed one in my Remington 700 and it chambers fine and fits fine in the chamber. I loaded up 10 to take to the range and test. Is there any reason to be concerned about being 0.030" over COAL?
Not if it fits in the chamber. Almost all of my 30-30 loads exceed max COAL by a small margin.
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:07 AM   #1224
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I've been reloading .223 for my son and I to take out west to shoot prairie dogs in June. I had a great load worked up for 50 gr V-MAX but I ran out of bullets and ended up buying some 52 gr V-MAX. When I seat the bullets to the depth that our guns like (0.020" off the lands using a comparator) the COAL ends up being 2.290". This is 0.030" over the max of 2.26" I've seen listed and 0.040" over what the COAL has been for my 50 gr V-MAX loads. I tested an unprimed one in my Remington 700 and it chambers fine and fits fine in the magazine. I loaded up 10 to take to the range and test. Is there any reason to be concerned about being 0.030" over COAL?
Should be fine
Also have to account for the Vmax pointed tip is a tiny bit longer than say a HP tip but will have the same distance to the "waist" of the bullet

Edit: if it chambers w/o leaving marks in the bullet/groove lands you should be golden
FWIW I tend to run all of my reloads slightly longer (not to the rifle grooves), sub max pressure and the accuracy is typically improved
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:04 AM   #1225
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Hi All

I am new to this forum and have been reloading for 35 years. Sorry for not reading this thread through, but I'm going to just jump right in.

I started with Lee Loaders loading 6.5Jap and 12 gauge in my teens. After moving to AK, I used another Lee Loader to keep my S&W 29 loaded. After a couple years, I came across a great deal on a Lee Loadmaster, which I usually use as a single stage press. As I added more calibers, I added more shell holders and turret heads so each die set has its own insert.

Currently I am loading 44Mag and Special for several single action, double action and gas operated pistols, for several 308Win rifles, a 338WinMag, and a couple 10mms.

I enjoy the extra satisfaction of dropping game with my own carefully worked up and handcrafted loads. I've been partial to lighter weight Barnes Bullets in my 338, shooting them out of a short barreled Sako. Performance has been so good with the light 338s that I think my next rifle will be a 20" barreled 338/06 Improved. Anyone have any experience with it?

A few things I've learned over the years are to always give a good inspection between each step of the process, you can get extra Varget in a rifle case if you use a looong drop tube, and never lend out your chronograph.
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:35 AM   #1226
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Yeah, and be careful the first time you shoot a scoped rifle over that Chrono, too.
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:00 PM   #1227
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I just picked up a new-to-me Marlin 1895. Pics to follow in the 'I Love This Gun Thread.' Just a quick question, is there any reason not to load and shoot using guidelines for the 1873 Springfield? Also, I think that I've read that micro-groove barrels don't like non-jacketed lead bullets. Is this true or am I hallucinating (again)?

Almost forgot, I scored a Dillon 450 with a bunch of accessories from a fellow at work for a steal. Up to this point I've been loading everything on a single stage RCBS.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:06 PM   #1228
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I just picked up a new-to-me Marlin 1895. Pics to follow in the 'I Love This Gun Thread.' Just a quick question, is there any reason not to load and shoot using guidelines for the 1873 Springfield? Also, I think that I've read that micro-groove barrels don't like non-jacketed lead bullets. Is this true or am I hallucinating (again)?
No, there is no reason to not use 1873 Springfield loads. They are very mild to accommodate the Trapdoor action and the stronger Marlin action will have no problem with those loads.

Generally, the Micro-groove Marlin barrels work better with jacketed bullets than lead boolits, especially at elevated velocities. The Ballard rifled barrels work better with lead boolits but are also pretty good with jacketed bullets as well.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:37 PM   #1229
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I just picked up a new-to-me Marlin 1895. Pics to follow in the 'I Love This Gun Thread.' Just a quick question, is there any reason not to load and shoot using guidelines for the 1873 Springfield? Also, I think that I've read that micro-groove barrels don't like non-jacketed lead bullets. Is this true or am I hallucinating (again)?

Almost forgot, I scored a Dillon 450 with a bunch of accessories from a fellow at work for a steal. Up to this point I've been loading everything on a single stage RCBS.
The Lyman manual recommends keeping the velocity to 1,600 FPS or less for cast lead bullets in Micro-Groove barrels.

Edited to add that the Lyman manual also has several load levels for this cartridge, designed for rifles of various vintages and mechanical strength.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:05 PM   #1230
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The micro groove barrels get along just fine with cast lead as long as they are sized right. More info that you can imagine right here.
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