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Old 03-18-2013, 12:36 AM   #1
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Final Drive on R1200GS oil drain?

I was considering buying a 2004-2007 R1200GS , but was concerned about the lack of being able to change the oil in the final drive. Apparently there is no filler or drain plug in some models. This seems ridiculous.
I dont consider having to remove the rear wheel etc and fill through a abs sensor hole much fun.
Does anyone know if BMW have returned to their senses and installed drain and filling holes like the older R1150gs models have?
If so what 1200 year models have this capablility.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:03 AM   #2
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Many threads on this subject, and you can still change the oil easily in the FDs with no drain plug on the bottom. Well, I guess easy is a relative term depending on your wrenching ability/interest and this is about a 15 minute job.

Remove the rear wheel, remove the ABS/speedo sensor, remove the bolt that attached the top of the FD to the torque arm above the driveshaft housing and the FD pivots downward 90 degrees. Pull what now serves as the drain plug (positioned directly rearward before the FD is pivoted down) and drain the oil. Reinstall the plug, pivot the FD back up while re-engaging the driveshaft splined adapter to the FD input shaft splines, reinstall the bolt, refill FD through the sensor hole, reinstall the sensor and wheel and you're done.

Late build model year 2007 bikes and after got the bottom drain plug.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:34 AM   #3
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It's really a good chance to grease the final drive input splines. I have seen some so rusted that they could not be separated.
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:45 AM   #4
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Do it everytime you replace the rear tire, wheel is already off. Works out about right.
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:22 PM   #5
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I don't know what year they added the fill hole but it is on the left so you still have to remove the wheel.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:36 PM   #6
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It is pretty simple. Follow these directions: http://www.jimvonbaden.com/R1200_Final_Drive.html

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Old 03-18-2013, 08:15 PM   #7
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This may sway you yet...
In order to get all the juice out, you have to drop the FD by unbolting it from the tele?lever. In order to do this and not break your wire for the ABS sensor, you have to remove the sensor anyhow. Since it's out at this point, pretend it's a fill hole and fill-er up.
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:41 AM   #8
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This may sway you yet...
In order to get all the juice out, you have to drop the FD by unbolting it from the tele?lever. In order to do this and not break your wire for the ABS sensor, you have to remove the sensor anyhow. Since it's out at this point, pretend it's a fill hole and fill-er up.
Any one know if the newer bikes which have a drain hole are filled the same way? 2012
Removing the rear wheel looks like it is as no fill with wheel on.
Approaching. A 600 mile oil change.
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Any one know if the newer bikes which have a drain hole are filled the same way? 2012
Removing the rear wheel looks like it is as no fill with wheel on.
Approaching. A 600 mile oil change.
New bikes have a drain plug in the bottom and a fill hole on the side closest to the wheel that is above the center of the drive. Seems like I remember it being at 10 to 11 o'clock or so. I always drop the drive the first time though to grease the driveshaft splines.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:53 PM   #10
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On my '12 GSA the fill hole is at 3 o'clock when the wheel is off. If you lube spline then you can just fill thru speed sensor hole, since you'll have to remove it anyway.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:24 AM   #11
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The new FD's hold 200ml of gear oil. Don't over fill it.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:28 AM   #12
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The new FD's hold 200ml of gear oil. Don't over fill it.
What YEAR(s) are you referring to?
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:15 PM   #13
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New bikes have a drain plug in the bottom and a fill hole on the side closest to the wheel that is above the center of the drive. Seems like I remember it being at 10 to 11 o'clock or so. I always drop the drive the first time though to grease the driveshaft splines.
Max sent a 207ml bottle of oil & sealing ring for the drain & fill hole & speed sensor it looks like. Doing the 600 oil change.
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This may sway you yet...
In order to get all the juice out, you have to drop the FD by unbolting it from the tele?lever. In order to do this and not break your wire for the ABS sensor, you have to remove the sensor anyhow. Since it's out at this point, pretend it's a fill hole and fill-er up.
On my 2009 12GS after trying several times to loosen it, I couldn't budge the fill hole bolt. I used the sensor hole instead! Just take your time, the fluid goes in very slowly!

Also, after checking several sources, I couldn't find a consensus on the amount of fluid for my 2009 so I filled it with 200ml and hoped for the best. So far, so good!
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:44 PM   #15
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What YEAR(s) are you referring to?

Anything with the vent from 2010 and up. Mine is a 2013 BMW has changed it about 3 times, IIRC. From 180ml to 220ml and back to 200ml.
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