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Old 04-04-2013, 08:53 AM   #2821
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I can't remember how many times I had to pull 990 side in traffic and wait for it to cool down in. So far, 1190's indicator never moved up, but in the -General Information- tab, on the dash, it shows oil temperature, last week saw that increasing till 97 C, don't know what will happen in summer.

One more thing... back to analogy of the car. Up until 50 C it is considered "cold" as in oil has not reached ideal temperature for doing its thing and pressure is high. And I've seen it go up to 110-120 C in constant free-way higher speeds in the summer. The car is an Audi, by the way. I'm glad the KTM has an oil temp gauge. I consider it important information (I also have an oil pressure gauge in the car, and you can see how the pressure goes down as oil temp rises). Oil temp and pressure are important information for decisions when to give the motor a break, if thinking on the longevity of the motor. Although these things are much more durable today, with better tolerances, better materials, almost irrelevant to worry about.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:57 AM   #2822
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Why you can't believe that KTM designed a very good cooling system? On my FJR1300 the temp indicator never do nothing, if the temp is cold the system close the water flow, if the temp is hot the fan remove the excessive heat, that is all.

In my Tiger 800XC water temp almost never changes. In my Ducati it is always changing (but you see it as numbers and not a "needle" so it is easier to see it always changing, but always in the normal range).
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:01 AM   #2823
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Thanks for your detailed explanation. Today I have spent a lot of time wrapping the exhaust using thermotec copper wraps. Seems like we have overcome a good portion of the heat. I have done almost all the bumper but, in my opinion, the biggest cause to this problem is the small pipe, in the middle of the bike. I can give you more feedback later. By the way fans work well, no problem.
show us a photo of your modification.....
Today I was driving around Milan with a lot of traffic and traffic lights. In this conditions I felt some heat coming up on my right leg when stopping, nothing drammatic....
as soon as I got moving the heat was over.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:04 AM   #2824
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One more thing... back to analogy of the car. Up until 50 C it is considered "cold" as in oil has not reached ideal temperature for doing its thing and pressure is high. And I've seen it go up to 110-120 C in constant free-way higher speeds in the summer. The car is an Audi, by the way. I'm glad the KTM has an oil temp gauge. I consider it important information (I also have an oil pressure gauge in the car, and you can see how the pressure goes down as oil temp rises). Oil temp and pressure are important information for decisions when to give the motor a break, if thinking on the longevity of the motor. Although these things are much more durable today, with better tolerances, better materials, almost irrelevant to worry about.
Thanks for the info Lion, you are right. Oil temperature should be higher. So, at least now I am sure that the water temperature is stable at 1190. The wraps stopped the heat rising; not totally, but to a better range. I am happier now. :-)))) I think that I can enjoy it more now. :-)))
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:19 AM   #2825
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Thanks for the info Lion, you are right. Oil temperature should be higher. So, at least now I am sure that the water temperature is stable at 1190. The wraps stopped the heat rising; not totally, but to a better range. I am happier now. :-)))) I think that I can enjoy it more now. :-)))
Also, I would read the manual, see if they have information on what is the oil temp range. In my car, normally aspirated V-6 motor, it says not to push below 50 C and slow down if oil temps hit 130 C.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:24 AM   #2826
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Also, I would read the manual, see if they have information on what is the oil temp range. In my car, normally aspirated V-6 motor, it says not to push below 50 C and slow down if oil temps hit 130 C.
Yes you are right, let me check it too
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:47 AM   #2827
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I think I haven't heard a fan so far, like it was in 990. By the way, fans are at the rights side, if I am not wrong, but the left side of the bike becomes hotter; I can feel it where my knee squeeze the tank. :
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show us a photo of your modification.....
Today I was driving around Milan with a lot of traffic and traffic lights. In this conditions I felt some heat coming up on my right leg when stopping, nothing drammatic....
as soon as I got moving the heat was over.
Maybe we need a survey, which side hotter right or left?
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:07 PM   #2828
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Maybe we need a survey, which side hotter right or left?
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:09 PM   #2829
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It was a joke :-)) maybe it's the help of Akrapovic
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:31 PM   #2830
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Maybe we need a survey, which side hotter right or left?
it depends on witch foot you put down when you stop, the other leg gets the heat.....
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:37 PM   #2831
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:10 AM   #2832
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It appears the standard model stoppies quite well:

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Old 04-07-2013, 08:32 AM   #2833
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... Today I have spent a lot of time wrapping the exhaust using thermotec copper wraps. ...
Just a thought, maybe Im wrong, but where does the heat goes now? Perhaps it is not a good idea to prevent the exhaust tube to give away its heat.

But its probably more important that you feel good on the bike in summer.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:00 AM   #2834
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There is a twin fan setup on the 1190 - and rather than simply being an 'on/off' switch for the fans, they run at variable speeds depending upon coolant temperature. Supposed to provide much more stable temperature control but the proof will only really be seen when (if ?) we hit summer temperatures
Well thought out bike . . . a 150 H.P. bike puts out alot of heat!

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Old 04-07-2013, 09:10 AM   #2835
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It appears the standard model stoppies quite well:

This is how they test ride KTM's after Dealer set-up . . . Really should wear some protective gear:

Reminds me of: "Hold my beer and watch this"



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