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Old 04-06-2013, 05:47 PM   #1
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Heidenau K60 problems

Any of you guys have any problems with the rear K60 getting tears or cracks? Mine has 1500 miles on it, probably 50/50 dirt/street and I have several cuts or tears running from the front of the knob to the base of the tire. I'm really surprised at this as none of my GS buds are having any problems and I thought this was supposed to be a long lasting tough tire. Plus my 990 is tons lighter than the Beemers. I've been running 30 psi off road and 38 on road with Alpina Tubless wheels. The dealer has taken pictures and set to Heidenau so I'm just waiting on if it's a flaw or normal wear. I don't feel confident enough in the tire now to take any serious rides or take the wife for a trip.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:42 PM   #2
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What size is it? I had an 140/80 18 and it didn't last. Got pretty chew up on various terrain. However an 140/80 17 went pretty well on my mates 800GS, in the same circumstances.

(the 18in I had was also on a 800GS)
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:50 PM   #3
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Yes we got cracks and it severely impacted the life of the tire and we only got 13000 miles out of it

The cracks appeared early but never got any bigger as I kept an eye on them but yours does not sound ideal if it is that bad
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:48 PM   #4
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What size is it? I had an 140/80 18 and it didn't last. Got pretty chew up on various terrain. However an 140/80 17 went pretty well on my mates 800GS, in the same circumstances.

(the 18in I had was also on a 800GS)
I'm sorry the tire size is 150/70 - 18
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:47 PM   #5
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Yes we got cracks and it severely impacted the life of the tire and we only got 13000 miles out of it

The cracks appeared early but never got any bigger as I kept an eye on them but yours does not sound ideal if it is that bad
13000... How?
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:07 PM   #6
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13000... How?
That was our reaction too, all related to the right hand, never had a tire last that long especially with house and contents on!!

I am impressed and to be honest don't want to run anything else now.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:06 AM   #7
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Just finished my first set of k60 scouts at around 7,000 miles, best mileage of any I tried on the Adv.
It does have a few nicks n tears, but I put that down to all the sideways messing about I've done on it.
Really good tyres for the Adv IMO and another set going on.

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Old 04-07-2013, 07:58 AM   #8
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I didn't have good luck with that tire at all on the 990. It was shredded in no time but I'm a bit heavy handed on the throttle. I have way better luck with the stock Scorp.. Especially at have the cost. YMMV...
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:26 AM   #9
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I've got over 8k miles on mine. That's riding 2 up around Moab and the dirt roads of Colorado plus street trips in Co, Ut, and around the Southeast. I'll probably get another 2k out of them. They do well, both street and dirt for me. Much better offroad the the Scorps.The most mileage I got from the stock Scorps was 4k.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:06 PM   #10
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Im interested to hear more about the saftey issue regarding cracks. Cant help but worry when making a pass at 100mph.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:35 PM   #11
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Im interested to hear more about the saftey issue regarding cracks. Cant help but worry when making a pass at 100mph.
I'm right there with you. I will post info I receive from them next week.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:35 AM   #13
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Just finished my first set of k60 scouts at around 7,000 miles, best mileage of any I tried on the Adv.
It does have a few nicks n tears, but I put that down to all the sideways messing about I've done on it.
Really good tyres for the Adv IMO and another set going on.

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Same here, no cracks on my second K60 140/18, third in the garage....about 6000 miles life...about a 1000-2000 more than other enduro rears.
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Old 04-08-2013, 02:42 AM   #14
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Have`nt had any problems with rear K60 on my 990.Ran about 5,000miles on a set and no obvious fault cracks or damage that I can see apart from what I would consider normal wear and tear.I would put another K60 on the rear as I was impressed with its performance.However I too would be interested in the report back from heidenau as to the what caused your K60 to fail like you describe.Any photos by the way?.You mentioned alpina tubless wheels are on your bike.Any similar issues with other tires on the tubless set up or is it just the K60.
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:24 AM   #15
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Yup, I am getting pretty good mileage out of mine (150/70-18), but I have had these cracks in both my second and third tire.

THIRD TIRE




SECOND TIRE





I am traveling through the Americas and in Brazil right now, so because of my concern I sent a message to Heidenau through info@heidenautires.com and actually got a response. Here is what John B at Heidenau had to say:

"Hello Joe,

We seen these before and though they look bad, haven't posed a threat, often come about from over-inflation. Where they've statistically turned-up a lot, has been Alaska. Riders would arrive at our dealer in Fairbanks after coming up from the lower 48 and have these same cracks. The shops there found the tire inflation at 45lbs or better when the tire is designed for 36lbs. Since they were running loaded and BMW says 42lbs the riders were over-inflating them. The combination of heavy load, long stretches of freeway, and to much pressure would cause cracks.

If I was out in the middle of C.America I'd change it to, but we haven't had a failure due to these cracks.

John B"


I didn't over inflate so I took him at his word that they wouldn't cause any problems, and so far they haven't.
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