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Old 04-06-2013, 08:25 PM   #16756
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thanks dude..it looks great...



However,you did'nt post more pics of the bike with the crfx tail...


Ok, ok...I'll see what I can do for you in the next couple days.... I had to replace the counter shaft seal on my XRR this week so I might have forgot a few things....
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:42 PM   #16757
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You want to put chrome on an XRR? Sorry, we can't be friends.
Well at the moment I am on a budget and can't afford a vapor + the mount. Also I'm in love with old style dual sports. I even considered putting an old style headlight and tank on my bike, and making it a bit like a high spun dirt tracker. I like simple, I like rugged. An electronic computer giving me digital read outs doesn't seem so rugged. I would've gone with a black speedo if it would've came that way. ;)
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:42 PM   #16758
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I like simple, I like rugged. )
Have you met Larryboy?
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:36 PM   #16759
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Well at the moment I am on a budget and can't afford a vapor + the mount. Also I'm in love with old style dual sports. I even considered putting an old style headlight and tank on my bike, and making it a bit like a high spun dirt tracker. I like simple, I like rugged. An electronic computer giving me digital read outs doesn't seem so rugged. I would've gone with a black speedo if it would've came that way. ;)
I have a stock odometer cable in the flea market, it will work with the ace well spedo from BD. I'd even throw in the gear hub thingie that's goes on the front axel for it. I've been meaning to buy a spacer that replaces it.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:09 PM   #16760
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I have a stock odometer cable in the flea market, it will work with the ace well spedo from BD. I'd even throw in the gear hub thingie that's goes on the front axel for it. I've been meaning to buy a spacer that replaces it.
Sorry brother, but I've already got that stock speedo gear and odometer. Hopefully that BD speedo gets here soon and I can plug and play.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:28 PM   #16761
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Well at the moment I am on a budget and can't afford a vapor + the mount. Also I'm in love with old style dual sports. I even considered putting an old style headlight and tank on my bike, and making it a bit like a high spun dirt tracker. I like simple, I like rugged. An electronic computer giving me digital read outs doesn't seem so rugged. I would've gone with a black speedo if it would've came that way. ;)
I know what you mean about being on a budget. I need a stator but just bought my bike so the toy-fund is dry... I have to plug the battery it has into a charger every couple days to keep the signals, tail and brake light and horn working. The head light is kinda scary at night too. I'd also like to put new jets and seals in the carb, it has a few issues...Just thought the tach is a good way to sort out your gearing
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:15 AM   #16762
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Ac/dc

I need some advice, I'm sure its been covered here before but here go's.
I have a conversion kit on my XRr( that the previous owner Butchered). I wired the lights and accessories to run off 12v dc sourced from a key switch. I got a hold of a rectifier/regulator to switch the ac to dc to power the battery/ switch. trouble is the R/R has 3 inputs fed from the stater and my bike only has 2. And the regulator on the bike has only one wire coming out to go to the coil and one ground. There is a blue wire coming out of the harness that originally went to the head light, is there a way I could use this wire to feed one leg of the R/R and have 12V dc coming out, or does it need all 3 phases to work?
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:30 AM   #16763
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I need some advice, I'm sure its been covered here before but here go's.
I have a conversion kit on my XRr( that the previous owner Butchered). I wired the lights and accessories to run off 12v dc sourced from a key switch. I got a hold of a rectifier/regulator to switch the ac to dc to power the battery/ switch. trouble is the R/R has 3 inputs fed from the stater and my bike only has 2. And the regulator on the bike has only one wire coming out to go to the coil and one ground. There is a blue wire coming out of the harness that originally went to the head light, is there a way I could use this wire to feed one leg of the R/R and have 12V dc coming out, or does it need all 3 phases to work?

Let me guess, you found a cheap used R/R from a street bike, Suzuki probably?

Please refer to the xr650r electrical thread, it has lots of poorly organized info.

You need a different R/R. I tried what you are doing to see if it would work a while back. It will not work. Theoretically it should, but I couldn't get it because the r/r had some weird regulation in it that dropped down around the 9v range, which means it needs the third leg to up the voltage.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:34 AM   #16764
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Um okay, ride like 15k miles through Desert/Baja/Sierra Single track/Street and everything in between, like that kind of riding? All done with as little clutch as necessary to start and stop and power up technical rocky uphill single track. Feather your clutch in sandy wash not sure on that one but what ever floats your boat. Point is lots of people who have been riding a long time don't use the clutch either for up shifting or down shifting given the right variables and skill level. As for the purpose its one less thing to do that is not necessary and results in a faster shift, if you choose to use your clutch for every shift congrats, but certainly don't imply that in some way it limits other peoples riding I can assure you it doesn't
Really, a 15k mile ride where the goal is to not use the clutch? Interesting objective.

And since you are opposed to feathering the clutch in sandy washes, I assume you start out with a hundred yards of trenching in 1st and 2nd gears? That's neat.


Well I rode about 200 miles of single track and washes this weekend with a few friends. Included in the bunch is Jack Johnson, Scott Harden, Larry Ragland, and others.

I counted 5 times where I shifted without a clutch. Not because I wanted to, but because I had to.




I couldn't find anyone who admits to not using the clutch or even trying to avoid clutch use.
When talking to Max Switzer (Multiple Baja 500/1000 and Mint 400 wins) he started talking about his 250x with a recluse and how it only takes quick let off on the throttle to shift. Then someone mentions that you can do this without a recluse, and the response was "yeh, but..."




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Lots of guys rarely use the clutch, it's common practice for many racers. The tranny handles it fine as long as the rider knows what he's doing. The clutch enguagment is actually the hardest thing on the bike's motor oil by far, as the plates come together the oil molicules get sheared breaking them down

And that is why a couple quarts of oil only lasts 600 miles and why the spec such frequent oil changes.

The goal isn't to avoid using the clutch, the goal is to keep the engine and tranny revs matched during a shift, which can be difficult at times and why we have clutches. If you are matching engine/tranny speeds good enough to shift without a clutch, you will not cause any more wear and tear by using the clutch because there is not much slippage between the plates. It is no more harmful than pulling the clutch on a bike that is parked in the garage.

The idea that clutch use adds wear and tear is bullshit, complete bullshit. And encouraging people to not use a clutch, because some think this is what racers do is also bullshit.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:47 AM   #16765
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The idea that clutch use adds wear and tear is bullshit, complete bullshit.

Well, it kind of does if you think about it. Every time you pull the clutch the plates travel on the basket fingers grinding aluminum away until you have grooves worn into the basket, which then causes a grabby clutch, which in turn causes slippage which results in added wear/tear. This is why I mentioned the clutch based on that fellers oil test...the metals that were a little high are from the clutch.

The cure for me is a billet Hinson basket that doesn't wear...I think it's hard annodized too. I clutch every shift because I'm not perfect and it's easy to damage a shift fork if you don't match the revs perfectly every single time. You've really got to be in the zone to hit your marks perfectly to ride without using the clutch, like a road race car driver.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:47 AM   #16766
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Does anyone have any pictures of their tank bag setups on their XRR? Particularly, with the Acerbis Sahara tank?

Trying to see if there are any viable options other than the Buckin' Roll. I tend to use almost all of the seat, moving front to back, depending on what I'm doing. I don't want a tank bag that takes up alot of real estate on the seat.
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:21 AM   #16767
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Since everyone is talking about clutches I may as well address a problem im having, don't kill me its been addressed before. So when i have my bike off in first gear if i pull in the clutch it wont roll without resistance from the engine(clutch wont wont fully disengage*thanks larryboy). Turn the bike on and heat it up and it gets much better and i can roll around on my tippy toes with the clutch pulled in, in gear, still a small amount of resistance though. I know that a little bit of this may be normal due to oil sticking the plates together, but i feel thats it has gotten worse since i got the bike. Sooooooo my question is what is the worn component that may be contributing to causing this, basket, springs, plates, or a combination? Thanks for your help in advance. P.S. I really dont think its the adjustment ive adjusted it to about every positon it can be, and sorry for the lack of being able to think for myself, i'd say its probably the springs and plates but id rather hear it from you guys

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Old 04-07-2013, 10:40 AM   #16768
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(clutch wont wont fully engage)

You're describing 'disengage', not engage. Stiction, normal.

It's free to inspect the clutch on an XRR, no gaskets or other parts needed, don't even have to dump the oil. Go tear it down and check it out, it takes less than 5 minutes.
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:45 AM   #16769
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+1 Jayrod, I luv it so much that I've 'filed' your photo of the numbers. Will order a set before they tell me "Ooh, no, too old, not available anymore".
Very useful Jayrod! Thanks!
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:25 AM   #16770
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You're describing 'disengage', not engage. Stiction, normal.

It's free to inspect the clutch on an XRR, no gaskets or other parts needed, don't even have to dump the oil. Go tear it down and check it out, it takes less than 5 minutes.

Thank you , and I know I have before, just wanted too see if there was really even reason to first. I had gotten a little bit of conflicting information on the subject but youre right its almost as easy as typing this to open it so i might aswell.
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