ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Racing
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-08-2013, 09:23 AM   #2311
skwidd
where does this lead?
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Pissing in your Kampfire
Oddometer: 16,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by nachtflug View Post
Villopotto looks to be firmly in the drivers seat the guy just does not settle for anything less than a win. I wonder what Kawasaki will do when it is time to resign him he'll want big $$$.
He got a new deal last fall, about the same time the entire off road program was shut down.
__________________
http://www.jimmyalbertson.com

'02 BN125 Eliminator, oversize 150 rear tire, 1 down on the front sprocket, Amsoil full synthetic race oil, dual gremlin bells
skwidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 09:39 AM   #2312
Beez
Given to fly
 
Beez's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Location: Framingham, MA
Oddometer: 5,711
How long do you all think Yamaha is going to stick with that backwards YZF450? By the looks of it, only riders and teams that have to use it do. Independent teams and privateers ride anything but blue.
Beez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 01:18 PM   #2313
zenjen
Go Outside
 
zenjen's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Quartz Mtn. West end of the Wichitas
Oddometer: 2,597
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beez View Post
How long do you all think Yamaha is going to stick with that backwards YZF450? By the looks of it, only riders and teams that have to use it do. Independent teams and privateers ride anything but blue.
It looks like they are sticking with it for 2014.

The wrap around exhaust design has been used by JGR on their SX bikes this season.


http://www.ladakar.com/2013/04/08/ya...014-prototype/

.
zenjen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 01:33 PM   #2314
skwidd
where does this lead?
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Pissing in your Kampfire
Oddometer: 16,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beez View Post
How long do you all think Yamaha is going to stick with that backwards YZF450? By the looks of it, only riders and teams that have to use it do. Independent teams and privateers ride anything but blue.
They're working on a hybrid parallel twin with telelever front suspension for 2015.
__________________
http://www.jimmyalbertson.com

'02 BN125 Eliminator, oversize 150 rear tire, 1 down on the front sprocket, Amsoil full synthetic race oil, dual gremlin bells
skwidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2013, 04:13 PM   #2315
nachtflug
infidel
 
nachtflug's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Harrys place
Oddometer: 45,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beez View Post
How long do you all think Yamaha is going to stick with that backwards YZF450? By the looks of it, only riders and teams that have to use it do. Independent teams and privateers ride anything but blue.
they painted themselves into a corner with that thing. to change concedes it didn't deliver. the numbers don't lie they are way below %20 in the entry/results columns which is a reasonable expectation of market share giving KTM 1/5 of the 450 pie. Suzuki was supposed to be the brand on shaky ground they didn't even bring new bikes into the US in 2011 was it?

except the MX bikes. plenty of them out there and they seem to hold their own. Yamaha needs to admit it wasn't such a great idea and move on.
nachtflug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 01:13 AM   #2316
B1KSOLO
1 down 4 up right?
 
B1KSOLO's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Location: Longmont Colorado
Oddometer: 299
Quote:
Originally Posted by nachtflug View Post
Yamaha needs to admit it wasn't such a great idea and move on.
that design was tried before and also failed, I'm not sure what Yamaha was thinking but I agree they need to scrap this program and get back to racing


Yamaha QT50 Yamahopper
CT50 a Yamaha QT50 marketed by the French company MBK

B1KSOLO screwed with this post 11-04-2013 at 02:57 PM
B1KSOLO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 07:12 AM   #2317
Foot dragger
singletracker
 
Foot dragger's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: chico,just below rag dump(nor-cal)
Oddometer: 12,342
Quote:
Originally Posted by nachtflug View Post
they keep getting better. Milsapps goes down in his heat race and passed most of the field by the end of the first lap he was cutting through them like a hot knife through butter. awesome racing I can' think of another sport where you can bring it into a stadium like that and be able to equal or even eclipse it's original. the only thing you can't do or have is big hills but all things considered for them to be able to get that level of riding inside a stadium is remarkable. those were serious whoops that lites rider (can't believe I used that term) who lost his transfer in the LCQ found out the hard way as did quite a few others. Villopotto looks to be firmly in the drivers seat the guy just does not settle for anything less than a win. I wonder what Kawasaki will do when it is time to resign him he'll want big $$$. incredible race I'm not a big fan of Wharton byt Musquin said twice in his post race interview that he was faster then them and he knew it but it looked to me like he finished 3rd. It's not over yet!
Those 1st couple laps with Wharton and Musquin dicing and slicing was the best race of the night,neither shut off then Wharton pulled away and didnt fall down,Wharton is very determined to make a name for himself. He was steady at the front and did a great job!

And Yup,those whoops were a real deciding factor,one false move and your race is over or vastly changed for the worse.
Dont want to get tired.

Ive ridden practice days at Marysville MX here locally,they always had an ambulance at the ready and kept it by the man made whoops.
Guys doing pile driver imitations pretty regular.
__________________
Some bikes around at times
Foot dragger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 07:35 AM   #2318
RedRocket
Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs
 
RedRocket's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: SoCal
Oddometer: 19,027
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foot dragger View Post
Those 1st couple laps with Wharton and Musquin dicing and slicing was the best race of the night,neither shut off then Wharton pulled away and didnt fall down,Wharton is very determined to make a name for himself. He was steady at the front and did a great job!

And Yup,those whoops were a real deciding factor,one false move and your race is over or vastly changed for the worse.
Dont want to get tired.

Ive ridden practice days at Marysville MX here locally,they always had an ambulance at the ready and kept it by the man made whoops.
Guys doing pile driver imitations pretty regular.


Yeah.

The number of whoops, and the way they spaced the last ones a little further apart really made it hard, I think because of the change in rhytmn just as you've had enough of them already.


I was happy for The Poodle too.
I like him, and dont mean to call him that, but you've seared my brain with picture flug!
RedRocket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 03:09 PM   #2319
skwidd
where does this lead?
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Pissing in your Kampfire
Oddometer: 16,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by nachtflug View Post
Yamaha needs to admit it wasn't such a great idea and move on.

Karma.

Not to disrespect Doug Henry in any way, he is a badass and a really good dood, but they started this bullshit with the diesels and they need to be punished.
__________________
http://www.jimmyalbertson.com

'02 BN125 Eliminator, oversize 150 rear tire, 1 down on the front sprocket, Amsoil full synthetic race oil, dual gremlin bells
skwidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 03:18 PM   #2320
mdubya
Right Brigade
 
mdubya's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: western, MD
Oddometer: 7,165
Yamaha built "backwards" two strokes in the past (TZ 250 road racer) and they didn't work either.
__________________
+0
mdubya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 05:20 PM   #2321
nachtflug
infidel
 
nachtflug's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Harrys place
Oddometer: 45,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdubya View Post
Yamaha built "backwards" two strokes in the past (TZ 250 road racer) and they didn't work either.
I was listening to an old timer talking about back in the 50's he was watching a scrambles race or whatever they called it at the time. he knew a guy who was on a Adler 2 stroke and he was watching him. guy was up front and went up a hill and then came right back at the pack as if the bike had a reverse gear. I guess the hill was steep enough that he stalled it and before you know it when he rolled backwards he'd bump started it by accident and the engine was running backwards and back at the pack he came, though not for very long as down he went.
nachtflug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 05:20 PM   #2322
nachtflug
infidel
 
nachtflug's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Harrys place
Oddometer: 45,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by skwidd View Post
Karma.

Not to disrespect Doug Henry in any way, he is a badass and a really good dood, but they started this bullshit with the diesels and they need to be punished.
the YZ 360's must count for something?
nachtflug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2013, 05:45 PM   #2323
skwidd
where does this lead?
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Pissing in your Kampfire
Oddometer: 16,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by nachtflug View Post
the YZ 360's must count for something?

Maybe, and the RD500.
__________________
http://www.jimmyalbertson.com

'02 BN125 Eliminator, oversize 150 rear tire, 1 down on the front sprocket, Amsoil full synthetic race oil, dual gremlin bells
skwidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2013, 07:09 AM   #2324
Foot dragger
singletracker
 
Foot dragger's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: chico,just below rag dump(nor-cal)
Oddometer: 12,342
Quote:
Originally Posted by nachtflug View Post
they painted themselves into a corner with that thing. to change concedes it didn't deliver. the numbers don't lie they are way below %20 in the entry/results columns which is a reasonable expectation of market share giving KTM 1/5 of the 450 pie. Suzuki was supposed to be the brand on shaky ground they didn't even bring new bikes into the US in 2011 was it?

except the MX bikes. plenty of them out there and they seem to hold their own. Yamaha needs to admit it wasn't such a great idea and move on.
It wasnt that long ago that it was a big deal if a KTM could just qualify for an SX main event,they have come a long ways in a short while.
They might not be the best bike out there now but they're improving.

Probably dirtbike sales dont justify Yamaha doing a complete re-design but their 450 has had too many top riders pan it to be seen as a great bike.

Suzuki hasnt changed their bike much but it works fine still.
__________________
Some bikes around at times
Foot dragger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2013, 07:16 AM   #2325
Foot dragger
singletracker
 
Foot dragger's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: chico,just below rag dump(nor-cal)
Oddometer: 12,342
Quote:
Originally Posted by nachtflug View Post
the YZ 360's must count for something?
I was racing shorttrack when those 360's came out,guys would buy the whole YZ360,yank the engine and stuff it in a Champion frame and have the fastest hotrod on the track!

They looked trick,sounded bad ass and went fast.
__________________
Some bikes around at times
Foot dragger is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 02:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014