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Old 04-09-2013, 10:28 AM   #676
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:24 AM   #677
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Marko says no more team orders from now on and denies 'criticizing' Webber in the past.





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April 10th (GMM).- In the wake of the 'Multi-21' affair, Red Bull has abolished team orders.
"There will be no more team orders by us," the energy drink company's motor sport director Dr Helmut Marko told Germany's Sport Bild on Wednesday.
Sebastian Vettel ignored the team's instruction to stay behind leader Mark Webber in Malaysia recently, sparking the controversy.
The saga left team owner Dietrich Mateschitz "very unhappy", Marko admitted.
No doubt the team wants to move on and have made a decision to avoid a similar situation later in another race. The Milton Keynes-based squad is set to allow its drivers to race without team instructions.
In a different note, Dr Helmut Marko insists pre-season comments he made about Mark Webber were never supposed to be interpreted as criticism of the Australian driver.
Austrian Marko, seen by most as team owner Dietrich Mateschitz's right hand man, said before the 2013 championship kicked off that Webber "can't maintain form" throughout an entire F1 campaign and "has a little trouble with the pressure".
Webber hit back by saying it is obvious he is not "part of Marko's agenda".
Marko's apparent criticism might have gained new significance in the wake of the aforementioned 'Multi-21' affair, where despite the fact Sebastian Vettel ignored team orders in Malaysia, it is Webber's place alongside him that appears most in doubt.
But Marko is quoted by Spain's El Confidential as insisting all the fuss about his pre-season Webber comments was exaggerated.
"First, the interview was conducted in German," he said, "it just happened to be Christmas, and so it was translated into other languages.
"I was asked why Vettel is champion and not Mark, so I tried to explain the differences with some facts.
"I did not think it would be taken as a criticism of Mark," he insisted.
Marko continued: "Mark has always been a driver with a good reputation, and I have always said of him that when he has a good car, he is a winner.
"But when he has a good car, unfortunately for him so too does Vettel. So, psychologically, it must be very hard for him.
"In the circumstances," Marko insisted, "the magazine tried to say that I was against Mark."
Marko made the comments about Webber in an interview with Red Bull's in-house magazine, Red Bulletin.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:23 AM   #678
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What an a-hole. Also, who is he to announce whether or not Red Bull will have team orders? That should come from Horner. And finally, I'll believe it when I see Webber fighting Vettel for the lead on the last lap. Somehow suspect that won't happen. Jeez, this guy is a jerk. Him and Lauda I'd like to have on my dartboard.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:26 AM   #679
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I'm going to sue Red Bull.

Not the car team, but rather the drink maker.

I've had Red Bull. Consumed entire cans of it.

To this date, I have not grown or been given wings.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:31 AM   #680
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I'm going to sue Red Bull.

Not the car team, but rather the drink maker.

I've had Red Bull. Consumed entire cans of it.

To this date, I have not grown or been given wings.
me neither but I always put that down to diluting it with vodka....
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:34 PM   #681
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McLaren think they understand their problems.

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While the team acknowledge they have not yet discovered the magic formula to vault them back to the front of the grid, they disclosed on Tuesday that they had found the crucial deficiencies that caused them to take just four points from the first two races.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:42 PM   #682
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me neither but I always put that down to diluting it with vodka....
In that case the wings will be attached to little birds flying around your head the next morn.
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cool vintage f1 photos of drivers etc- maybe old news to all of you-
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:24 AM   #684
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Tech Thursday...

Sauber has sprouted a new sensor

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different engine covers at Ferrari



Lotus: the boomerang shaped support under the chassis is also a cooling duct for the electronic box just behind it



Williams have several front wing specs this weekend, this one included a new standalone winglet

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and just in case people thought the multi 21 controversy was dead....

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AP Sebastian Vettel took the Multi 21 Malaysian Grand Prix controversy a step further on Thursday in China when he told the assembled press that Red Bull teammate Mark Webber didnt deserve to win.
Vettel claimed he didnt properly understand the coded message and would do such a passing maneuver again.
Had I understood the message, then I think I would have thought about it, reflected on what it means, what the team wants me to do, to leave Mark in first place and me finishing second, said Vettel. And I think I would have thought about it and probably done the same thing because Mark doesnt deserve that.
Vettel doesnt consider himself the bad guy and appeared to maintain a cheeky nature about it when pressed further by Reuters.
I dont like to talk ill of other people. Its not my style. I think I said enough. The bottom line is that I was racing, I was faster, I passed him, I won, he said.
In terms of support, if Vettel was asked to do so for Webber, he seems unlikely to do so. Vettel looks to be precisely self and team-focused first.
Being completely honest, I never have support from his side, Vettel said. Ive got a lot of support from the team and I think the team is supporting both of us the same way.
I respect him a lot as a racing driver but I think there were more than one occasions in the past where he could have helped the team and he didnt.
Webber was part of the FIA Press Conference Thursday and addressed matters there.
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and just in case people thought the multi 21 controversy was dead....
OH lord, someone needs to bitch-slap him.
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Wow, look at the big mouth on Vettel. Apparently he thinks he's above the team.

Looks like Ferrari is testing a copy of the Lotus passive aero thingy.
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rumors about Kimi:

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In recent weeks rumors have circulated linking Kimi Raikkonen with Red Bull for the next season, because the statements of its owner, Dietrich Mateschitz, who placed him as one of the natural candidates to replace Mark Webber . Rumors have increased after the impasse between it and the German Sebastian Vettel during the last GP of Malaysia.
However, Raikkonen said his future remains wide open: "There are always rumors in F1, is normal. I have no contract for next year and I have no plans yet. It is you who speculate ... We've only raced twice this season, we'll let you spend a little more time and see what happens, "he said.
Since returning to the category last year, the Finn has been signing short-term contracts with Lotus, contracts that guarantee a change of air facilities at any time, and also to fulfill the commitments exempt commercial and attend various events .
"Every team is different and managed differently, but all lived good times and managed well. I can not say that Lotus is better than any other team, just different, "the Finn.
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