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Old 04-14-2013, 02:51 AM   #736
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They raced to the end today for sure.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:16 AM   #737
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I had a smile or two when team orders came down to various drivers that they could now 'race'.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:28 AM   #738
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The tire strategy the FIA has demanded of Pirelli isn't eco friendly. It's the opposite. They go through more tires in a race, not fewer. Not sure what you mean.

The unintended consequence is that qualifying suffers. The top cars ran very few laps. In two of the three segments they only came onto track for one time lap. If that continues, the FIA may make some changes.
Eco friendly is probably not the best choice of words for the point I wanted to make... I am not sure I like the direction F1 is going. It seems to me this tire bs is intended to punish the faster teams and give a break to the mid pack cars. When a faster car has to run to a lap time to make garbage rubber last and let a slower car seem competitive, it is almost like fixing the races. Not sure if this is an effort to attract an uninformed fan that must see artificial passing.

Just give them good rubber and throw nails on the track and watch the cars get flats. That would mix up the order, because having the cars finish in order of their actual speed is boring according to some.

It could be I am getting tired of the new F1, it seems they are losing their way like NASCAR a few years back.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:46 AM   #739
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Anyway, congrates to the winner, looks like Fernado will have a special night on top of the normal race win celebration with his girlfriend and his girlfriend's grilfriend.

Webber must be disappointed confussing the toro roso of Jean-Eric with Seb's car when he broad sided it. You could almost hear his say " shit wrong car"!

Anyone else think if Seb stopped one lap sooner he would have passed Lewis?
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:57 AM   #740
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Anyway, congrates to the winner, looks like Fernado will have a special night on top of the normal race win celebration with his girlfriend and his girlfriend's grilfriend.

Webber must be disappointed confussing the toro roso of Jean-Eric with Seb's car when he broad sided it. You could almost hear his say " shit wrong car"!

Anyone else think if Seb stopped one lap sooner he would have passed Lewis?


Alonso's girl looks like a teen.

Seb wouldn't have needed a whole lap, if the finish line had been at the end of the straight he would've been spraying bubbly.
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Old 04-14-2013, 12:47 PM   #741
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Alonso's girl looks like a teen.

Seb wouldn't have needed a whole lap, if the finish line had been at the end of the straight he would've been spraying bubbly.
Not so sure about that, those soft tires were done. If there was another lap I think Lewis would have walked away with Vettel squirming on crap tires.
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Old 04-14-2013, 01:53 PM   #742
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Yeah, Vettel's tires were shot. He got 3 good laps out of them, which is about right.

A dominant run by Ferrari. I see they're using the double (or passive) DRS -- I think for the first time. Makes sense on a track with two long straights. Clearly the fastest car in race trim.

I can't find a list of pit stops. Anyone? I think Massa's first pit stop was really slow, and he made a second pit stop before lap 25, which knocked him way back in the order. Then he got stuck behind the worst car -- a Force India. They, like Ferrari, are fast down a straight so it was extremely hard to make a pass.

I wonder how much, if at all, Vettel was slowed by being behind Hulkenberg? It may be that the Red Bull simply didn't have enough pace, no matter what their tire strategy was.

Kudos to Mercedes for really improving their car this season. What seemed like a disastrous move for Hamilton is now looking very timely indeed.
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:54 PM   #743
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Anyway, congrates to the winner, looks like Fernado will have a special night on top of the normal race win celebration with his girlfriend and his girlfriend's grilfriend.

Webber must be disappointed confussing the toro roso of Jean-Eric with Seb's car when he broad sided it. You could almost hear his say " shit wrong car"!

Anyone else think if Seb stopped one lap sooner he would have passed Lewis?
Yes to Webber, no to passing Lewis. The softs would have not made it in my opinion but it would have been exciting to watch, Seb drove like he was on a mission
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Old 04-14-2013, 03:22 PM   #744
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It seems to me this tire bs is intended to punish the faster teams and give a break to the mid pack cars. k.
So you think that the midpack cars are going to have better tire wear than the front runners? Doubtful.
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Old 04-14-2013, 03:24 PM   #745
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brilliant race

shame the NBC guys never twig on things like "Vettel still needs to stop" until after they've blathered on missing the point for a while.

Other than that.. inspired drive from Alonso & well managed from Kimi. Hamilton did just what he needed to do for his 3rd.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:01 PM   #746
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Looks like Webbers bad luck will continue in Bahrain...

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/189857/...gutierrez.html

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Old 04-15-2013, 01:29 AM   #747
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The thought that drivers are not pushing to the limit in a sport that is meant to be the ultimate test of man and machine has led to some disquiet. ...

Some hark back to the 'tyre-war' era of the late 1990s and early 2000s as an example of drivers being able to push to the limit throughout, but those who were there say that isn't the case either.

Raikkonen said: "If you take six or 10 years ago still you could not always push 100%. It's normal. These tyres are very good in qualifying with grip and in some places you have to look after them a little bit more than others, but it's not any different from last year so I don't really understand why people are complaining so much."
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:55 AM   #748
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:18 AM   #749
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and a cool shot for the Alonso fans... well driven!

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Old 04-15-2013, 07:49 AM   #750
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Do you remember Jim Clark's 1967 drive at Monza? The past we remember existed, if only in memorable events that stand out like shinging stars against a ink-black sky.
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