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Old 04-15-2013, 11:08 AM   #901
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Life time Investment

What you are doing will pay back 100 fold over the years, It is truly a lifetime time investment, memories that you are making now
you will enjoy forever,& what you pass on to you charge will be remembered by him forever,and the up side is you have a lifetime ridding partner.

Oh, the places you will go and the things you will see together will bond you two forever.

GOOD ALL OVER YOU DAD
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:33 PM   #902
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New rider in East Mesa

I just wanted to post up and introduce myself.

I just bought an 05 DR 650 that I am using to commute from East Mesa to North Scottsdale.

I live right next to Usery, so I wanted a dual sport to check out the fire roads and trails.

This is my first motorcycle, so I will take it slow, but it looks like you guys are out a lot.

I am going to try to ride 4 peaks road this Saturday with some friends. I am loving my new mode of transportation.

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Old 04-15-2013, 06:29 PM   #903
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Julio,

I wouldn’t say flaking out, I would say you got you priorities spot on



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Welcome to ADV and enjoy the 4peaks ride. It is one of my favorites.



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Old 04-15-2013, 06:34 PM   #904
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Julio,
Cool video, the young'un looks to be tearin' it up already. Well done!
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:57 PM   #905
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Thanks Bill-

I can't wait to get comfortable on the bike, so I can go see some of your more scenic rides.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:04 PM   #906
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Just don't ask Bill to take you to Mount Lemon on your maiden off road voyage. He has a bad track record.
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Julio, Congrats on being a good Dad and putting your priorities where they belong dude. Just as my Amigo said...
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:07 AM   #907
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My buddy bailed on me for this Saturday. Does anyone want to Put Put up 4 peaks road? I want to go in the morning and do an out and back along the fire road.

I will ride slow (Never been there and a new rider)

I will start my ride at the Walgreens at Power and Thomas at 7:00 if someone else is interested in riding.

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Old 04-16-2013, 11:19 AM   #908
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If you don't have any takers feel free to join us on this ride:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=878235

It will be very easy and is also a great ride.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:50 PM   #909
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Thanks for the heads up.

I will try to make your ride. I am brand new to adventure riding. I did 90 miles up in prescott national forest with some friends and loved it.

Hopefully I will see you guys on Saturday.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:21 PM   #910
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New riders

Here is something for new dirt riders that I got from a friend that is helping a dirt newbe

1. In order to go fast, you must first learn to go slow.

Go into a paved parking lot. Do slow (1'st gear) figure 8's. (big turn 8's) Do it sitting down. Comfortable?...well good. That's the last time you sit down for the rest of this exercise.

Now do it standing up (all the way through the figure 8)
Try it with your knees gripping the tank and moving the bike through the turn using only "body English" and transfer of weight. Don't steer the bike through the turn, MAKE it turn with weight transfer.
Be "loose" on the bike...You should have a snug-to-firm grip on the handgrips, with your elbows and shoulders loose.

Now do it WITHOUT your knees gripping the tank and just transferring your weight through the footpegs.

You will notice that the throttle becomes your friend. As the bike wants to fall to the inside of the turn, a little more throttle will save you and stand the bike up automatically. Notice this. Feel it. The throttle is your friend.

Take notice of how the bike reacts between all of the above.. sitting down...steering through the turn...standing up..."guiding" the bike with weight transfer ... standing up-gripping the bike with your knees.. Standing and not gripping- "guiding" through weight transfer on the pegs.

Do a hundred reps of the above exercise.
When you get comfortable with it....tighten up the turns.
Still comfortable?...put some chalk marks on the pavement on the exit of the turn and pass your front wheel over the chalk mark EVERY time.
Do a hundred of these (many).

Every time you go for a ride find an empty parking lot and practice this.

Comfortable?
Now move the whole exercise to dirt.
Find a field and repeat. Use a couple of twigs to simulate chalk marks.
Do a hundred reps.

Comfortable?
Move the whole exercise to looser dirt (less traction)

Things to learn...
Notice how weight transfer affects the bike differently depending on whether its being fed into the bike through the handlebars vs the tank (knee grip on the tank) vs the footpegs.
Learn that the throttle is your friend...a quick burst of power can bail your ass out of trouble (on dirt...most of the time.)

Brakes.
Don't be afraid of the front brake. Learn it. The front brake, for beginners on the dirt is like having a pet Bengal tiger. It can bite you, maul you, and hurt you real bad....but if you treat it correctly, and learn its habits it can save your butt.

You must learn to feather the front brake.
Do this exercise sitting down at first...its easier...and slide your weight forward on the seat to set up for the turn.

At your practice field (dirt) get going in a straight line, get the bike up into 2nd or 3rd gear (a comfortable speed), start slowing down to make a turn (use the brakes) feather the front brake...pull gently in on it...easy. NEVER lock it up.

Imagine there is an egg between your fingers and the brake lever...you must squeeze as hard as you dare with out breaking it..

As you progressively lean into the turn you should progressively let off on the brake.
NEVER pull the brake on hard while leaned over...it will bite you.
Learn to be gentle on the lever (at first) even if you are only putting the brake on 1%.

Practice right and left turns while doing this. Do more on the side you are least comfortable...so right and left become second nature.

When you are comfortable with that...increase your speed where you will require more braking to set up for the turn.

Now use more brakes. Always both brakes.
Use the front 2% then 5%....then 20% etc.
Learn to vary the proportion of front brake vs back brake.

Do most of your braking while the bike is vertical.. progressively letting off the brakes in proportion to the lean angle of the bike as you enter the turn.(You can...and should...practice this on normal road curves).

Do a hundred reps.
Comfortable?
Now practice it standing up ...and only upon turn entry should you plonk onto the seat, move your weight forward, lean the bike over while progressively letting off the brakes. This is all done in an eyeblink.


Practice.
...and then practice some more.
Any empty parking lot is an opportunity to practice.
THINK.
Feel the bike. Think and feel what the bike is doing as you shift your weight from one footpeg to another.
Think and feel what happens to the bike as you progressively squeeze the front brake harder. Try this on pavement. Try it standing up in your empty parking lot/practice pad.

...and so on....

an add on would be to practise some figure 8 using the clutch and throttle to control your speed as
slipping the clutch is needed to climb over rocks, trees and stuff



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Old 04-16-2013, 03:57 PM   #911
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too long, didn't read.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:09 PM   #912
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Nice Jack, Thanks
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:12 PM   #913
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too long, didn't read.
ya... and no pictures or cartoons either...!!...
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:09 PM   #914
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Here is something for new dirt riders

Fill your bike with gas. Ride until empty. Repeat.

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Here you go Julio. I summarized it for you.


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Old 04-16-2013, 09:56 PM   #915
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Just don't ask Bill to take you to Mount Lemon on your maiden off road voyage. He has a bad track record.
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Julio, Congrats on being a good Dad and putting your priorities where they belong dude. Just as my Amigo said...

Paul,

That's is what I get for going way to fast. I think I might have broken 25 MPH on that mountain
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