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Old 04-13-2013, 08:29 PM   #841
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Why do we line up to watch the latest blockbuster movie with all sorts of fake CGI effects in over-saturated colors and cartoonish digital tweaking, but then apply a different set of standards to what we prefer in still photography? Why do we insist that still photography somehow be closer to boring, drab reality? Why is it so many consider a photograph to be a documentation of reality versus a valid form of art?

Photography has never really been that good at documenting reality. I've decided to do whatever I think looks good and ignore the critics and I urge more here to do the same. They are your photographs. Screw with them in any manner you wish.



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Old 04-13-2013, 09:14 PM   #842
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Old 04-14-2013, 03:20 AM   #843
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:58 AM   #844
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Great shot Tx Lone Rider! That is a really cool exhibit at the arboretum too. Here's one from last nights run around the lake.

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Old 04-14-2013, 06:40 PM   #845
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Great photo TxLoneRider, but you are really trying to drive the internet photography community crazy, huh? If there is anything many armchair internet critics on photography forums love to hate on more than HDR, it's selective color. I'm not sure why. Why are the "rules" for still photography so different than for cinema? One of the greatest, and most highly acclaimed movies ever was shot in selective color in a very emotionally moving way. Can you name it?
Thanks, and eck to the critics. I will always listen to peoples opinions. But I reserve the right to disagree. You can't learn anything if you don't listen to others. Well, of course, sometimes you have to cut your losses, but that is another discussion.

And my wife immediate noted Schindler's List when she was reading your comment over my shoulder.

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Photography has never really been that good at documenting reality. I've decided to do whatever I think looks good and ignore the critics and I urge more here to do the same. They are your photographs. Screw with them in any manner you wish.
Well said. I look at some of the pictures I've taken, and some look feel right with just some color correction and contrast adjustments. Some just need more processing. The one above, just left me, well blah with the single exposure, and there was a bit too much movement between the 3 exposures for HDR to look good, but the B&W on the HDR made the aliasing issues go away, and the selective color brought the art to life. But I digress.

Dave, I really like your eye, you've given me ideas on how to improve what I do, and for that, a big thank you.

At the end of the day, the pictures are my hobby. I am just happy when other people appreciate what I produce.

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Here is another photographer I've discovered recently that uses HDR with incredible results.
You could easily describe her work as cartoonish. If that's so, I LOVE CARTOONS!
http://www.barbcochranphotography.com/
Thanks for the link.

And again thanks.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:26 PM   #846
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:37 PM   #847
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PBee and Tex76, Your photos are outstanding! Keep 'em coming!
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:01 AM   #848
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I know, this is straight out of Donald Duck, but my outside HDR shots are better but without the bike though. Gimme a break, I just started last weekend fooling around with my dusted off Nikon D70, a new tripod and Luminance software.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:35 AM   #849
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PBee and Tex76, Your photos are outstanding! Keep 'em coming!
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:47 AM   #850
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Nice stuff here. My attempts:



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Old 04-16-2013, 04:18 PM   #851
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The term "Simulated HDR" I would only apply to a single image processed in a non HDR program to create a look similar to the look associated with HDR. Any time you use an HDR software program to create an HDR with tonemapping, exposure fusion etc, then it is not simulated (even if this is done with a single exposure).

I believe it was Geek that threw out the term "simulated HDR" and said most of the images in this thread are not true HDRs. (Correct me if I am wrong.)
While some here are simulating HDR with non-HDR software, I do not think that is the majority of the images here.
For you HDR simulators, If you like the HDR look, then get yourself some HDR software and learn to use it. It isn't hard.
Thanks for calling this out Dave, and setting the record straight. I think that one of the main drawbacks to processing from a single RAW image (as I do) is that additional noise is gained in the process. But even with that said - HDR results can still be achieved quite well.

I think it's also worth noting for those interested, that there is a big difference between using a single JPG versus a single RAW to produce HDR - RAW files retain MUCH more native information within the photo, details that can be brought out when over exposing and under exposing the single image using photo editing software (like Photoshop). JPGs on the other hand do not retain nearly as much of this additional data, so over exposing images in particular is quite limited.

And Dave, great sunset shots!
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Another nice one PBee!

Tails_KTM, The first one is really good, but I'm more than a little jealous.

Krime, your stuff is so good, I hadn't even considered you were using single exposures. I agree a RAW file is better, but don't discount single JPEGs for HDR either. There can still be lots of detail hiding in apparently over and under-exposed areas as demonstrated on page 13, post 189 of this thread.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:47 PM   #854
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herrdirektor, Nice try for a noob. Keep working at it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:04 AM   #855
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herrdirektor, Nice try for a noob. Keep working at it.
Thanks, but my first attempt was a fake, based on a single JPEG shot.
Already produced much better, bracketed pics of my garden with JPEG images.
This weekend I go all the way with bracketed RAW images.
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