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Old 04-17-2013, 09:13 PM   #75901
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I know I don't show my face around here much, but that's about to change. I live in Alabama and run around with a member here they call Swamp....

Anyways I have a 1997 DR 650 out in California at my brothers. I had him drop it off at the local shop to do some service work before my recent trip to Mexico on it last week. I do all of my own service work here in Alabama, but I have no choice. Big mistake...

So the bike left me stranded due to carburetor issues that should have been fixed by the shop, and I also noticed a broken pinch bolt on the front forks....how genuine of them. According to the parts fiche, this stud is not replaceable. Does anyone here know if that is true?

I left the bike in Mexico, and plan to go back and pick it up in July to continue towards Panama. I am making a list of parts that I need to have shipped to Mexico in order to prep for the next leg of the journey.

Oh, and here's a photo from the beginning of the 2600 mile trek that I completed in 7 days, haha!!!

Guys break those pinch bolt studs all the time. You can live with three of them no prob. Do not over torque them. If you work on your own bike in Alabama ... why would a "Carb" problem side line you? It's a simple device. Probably a clogged fuel filter or Pilot Jet or water or dirt in fuel. All doable side of road ... or by any decent Mexican mechanic. Never under estimate just HOW GOOD the Mexicans are with simple motors like the DR. They know their stuff.

I hope you left your bike with someone you trust ... and are paying? If not, ... Bit of a risky proposition, IMO.

Hopefully your bike is well prepped and set up to make Panama and back.
I would not ship parts to Mexico ... they'll get stuck in Customs and you may never get them out. Hand carry them in yourself ... and bring all receipts in case they ask for them. They are real sticklers on this sort of thing. Trust me. (I hide most parts and don't declare anything)

I hope your chain & sprockets are in good shape, hard to source there. Bring spare front sprocket, fork seals, rear brake pads, Carb jets (pilot and Main)tiny in line fuel filter, spare tubes and a rear tire if you need one. (expensive and hard to find good tires and tubes in Mexico)
!que le via muy bien!
Have a safe ride!
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:14 AM   #75902
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Btw, what year is your DR? I am curious to know if the fork design would happen to be the same. If I know the year, I could cross the entire fork leg on a parts fiche.
96-current is same.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:11 AM   #75903
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Thanks for all of the pointers. The float bowl o rings were faulty and flooding the plugs. We weren't able to source the proper size o rings, so we ended up sanding some down to get me to the destination. The bike is in a gated community with a friend of mines family. As of now, when I fly back I will bring new o rings, a larger tank, a new choke (mine broke), new pinch bolts. The rest of the items you mentioned, I already had with me and are stored on the bike. Oh....and I won't be bringing the bike back...its going to South America after Panama....and then hopefully to Africa and beyond

I got back in from the trip 4/17/13 Wednesday morning at 2:00am. Once I am able to decompress for a bit, be looking for a rider report. There is a lot to tell about this leg of the journey!

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:19 AM   #75904
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Thanks to both of you. Seems one of the Procycle guys was happy with 2.5, Guess we'll each be dialing in to a sweet spot. Anyone out there drill an additional low speed bleed hole to keep them plush with more preload? I wouldn't do this without riding it first with the heavier rear spring also. Just hoping for more competent but still compliant suspension.
I had the same question as you on the bleed hole drilling. I would say that with 2.5 turns of preload, that it is not necessary to drill a third hole. Mine came with two holes pre-drilled and for my preferences, is adequate. I know that when Race Tech first shipped the Emulators, that they came without any bleed holes drilled.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:56 AM   #75905
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The float bowl o rings were faulty and flooding the plugs.
Do you mean the needle seat o-ring?
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We weren't able to source the proper size o rings, so we ended up sanding some down to get me to the destination.
Was there a significant time constraint?
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As of now, when I fly back I will bring new o rings, a larger tank, a new choke (mine broke), new pinch bolts.
Is your DR650 equipped with a BST40 carburetor?

Regards,

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Old 04-18-2013, 10:03 AM   #75906
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Thanks for all of the pointers. The float bowl o rings were faulty and flooding the plugs. We weren't able to source the proper size o rings, so we ended up sanding some down to get me to the destination. The bike is in a gated community with a friend of mines family. As of now, when I fly back I will bring new o rings, a larger tank, a new choke (mine broke), new pinch bolts. The rest of the items you mentioned, I already had with me and are stored on the bike. Oh....and I won't be bringing the bike back...its going to South America after Panama....and then hopefully to Africa and beyond

I got back in from the trip 4/17/13 Wednesday morning at 2:00am. Once I am able to decompress for a bit, be looking for a rider report. There is a lot to tell about this leg of the journey!
Awesome! You're a very lucky guy! Sounds like you've thought all this through well. Good you caught the O rings. Should be an awesome ride. I lived in Guat. for two years. Lots to explore there. Have fun!
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:18 AM   #75907
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Shipping?

Does anyone have any first hand experience with motorcycle shipping companys? I need to get my DR back to Maine from AZ the middle of next month. Wish I had time to do a cross country trip, but my schedule is not going to allow it. Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:36 PM   #75908
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Does anyone have any first hand experience with motorcycle shipping companys? I need to get my DR back to Maine from AZ the middle of next month. Wish I had time to do a cross country trip, but my schedule is not going to allow it. Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:52 PM   #75909
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After searching around a while trying to find a replacement stud, I found it on mcmaster-carr.com. They sell a full assortment of metric stainless studs in a number of different lengths.

If memory serves, you need M6x40 1mm pitch...i got the 18-8 since i doubt i need the added corrosion protection of the 316 (and it's about $7 more per stud!)
http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/3149/=mdmmna



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I know I don't show my face around here much, but that's about to change. I live in Alabama and run around with a member here they call Swamp....

Anyways I have a 1997 DR 650 out in California at my brothers. I had him drop it off at the local shop to do some service work before my recent trip to Mexico on it last week. I do all of my own service work here in Alabama, but I have no choice. Big mistake...

So the bike left me stranded due to carburetor issues that should have been fixed by the shop, and I also noticed a broken pinch bolt on the front forks....how genuine of them. According to the parts fiche, this stud is not replaceable. Does anyone here know if that is true?

I left the bike in Mexico, and plan to go back and pick it up in July to continue towards Panama. I am making a list of parts that I need to have shipped to Mexico in order to prep for the next leg of the journey.

Oh, and here's a photo from the beginning of the 2600 mile trek that I completed in 7 days, haha!!!

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Old 04-18-2013, 01:57 PM   #75910
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yep, i've got enough room to get on the broken stud with a pair of vice grips. I'll check ace locally for the stud. Thanks for the tip. Btw, what year is your dr? I am curious to know if the fork design would happen to be the same. If i know the year, i could cross the entire fork leg on a parts fiche. Like i said, unfortunately the bike is not with me and is sitting in mexico waiting for my return. I have no way of physically checking to make sure it will in fact thread out.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:31 PM   #75911
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Do you mean the needle seat o-ring?Was there a significant time constraint?Is your DR650 equipped with a BST40 carburetor?

Regards,

Derek
No, the orings that seal the float to the carb body were dried out and cracked.

Significant time restraints. The plan was to leave Los Angeles, CA Saturday morning, ride the entire Baja, hop the ferry overnight to Mazatlan, ride down the coast to Colima, and then circle back up to the MX-15. The goal was to be in Puebla the very next Friday or Saturday (one week). I was suppose to fly home Sunday to be back at work that Monday morning....didn't happen

Yep, my DR650 is utilizing the the stock BST40.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:55 PM   #75912
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rear sprocket

Changing out the sprockets and chain on my 04 DR. Manual says to torque the mounting nuts to 19.5 lb-ft. It says nothing about using Loctite, but it sure seemed like there was some on there when I hear it pop on loosening the bolts. Wondering if a little dab of loctite on there is a good idea?

Also, the rubber absorbers in the rear wheel are not broken or cracked, but are pretty hard. Should I bother replacing these or should they be OK?
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:26 PM   #75913
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Changing out the sprockets and chain on my 04 DR. Manual says to torque the mounting nuts to 19.5 lb-ft. It says nothing about using Loctite, but it sure seemed like there was some on there when I hear it pop on loosening the bolts. Wondering if a little dab of loctite on there is a good idea?

Also, the rubber absorbers in the rear wheel are not broken or cracked, but are pretty hard. Should I bother replacing these or should they be OK?
The bolts in question have loc tite on them from the factory. Suzuki recommend using NEW bolts ... but, IMO, you do not need to. I would use a dab of BLUE loc tite on them however. I've re-used the same nut/ bolts on 3 rear sprocket changes now.

How old are your rubber dampers? If more than 3 years/20K miles I would change them out. You WILL feel the difference.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:56 PM   #75914
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The bolts in question have loc tite on them from the factory. Suzuki recommend using NEW bolts ... but, IMO, you do not need to. I would use a dab of BLUE loc tite on them however. I've re-used the same nut/ bolts on 3 rear sprocket changes now.

How old are your rubber dampers? If more than 3 years/20K miles I would change them out. You WILL feel the difference.
I would change the bushings and the bolts and if you have a castle-nut with a cotter pin I'd order the self torquing one from pro cycle makes chain adjustment a snap....be sure not to over tighten the chain....check it under load, And if you haven't removed the upper chain roller now is a good time to do so just find a bolt that fits back in the hole.

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Old 04-18-2013, 07:09 PM   #75915
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I would change the bushings and the bolts and if you have a castle-nut with a cotter pin I'd order the self torquing one from pro cycle....
You mean self-locking. Self-torquing would be quite a trick.

And I like this better than the self-locking nut, or the cotter pin on a castle nut.

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