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Old 04-18-2013, 06:47 AM   #796
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And how much difference can that make when Kimi breaks half of those little wingy bits off one side, and drives it that way to end, finishing 2nd?
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:58 AM   #797
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And how much difference can that make when Kimi breaks half of those little wingy bits off one side, and drives it that way to end, finishing 2nd?
they said it cost him 0.25 seconds / lap....

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Old 04-18-2013, 07:06 AM   #798
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:33 AM   #799
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it's all a game of misdirection...

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The E21 improves as the rare goes on making faster in the process partly because of that applied technology.
Thursday, April 18, 2013






Kimi Raikkonen leaving pits during the Chinese GP weekend (LAt Photo)



April 18th, 2013 (GMM) The secret of Lotus' speed in 2013 is an hydraulically-controlled active suspension system, Germany's specialist Auto Motor und Sport reports.
Last month, we reported that, under the skin of Mercedes' new W04 car, a system known in the German squad's garage as 'Fric' was legally mimicking otherwise outlawed electronic active suspension.
Auto Motor und Sport reports that it is Mercedes engineers who therefore believe they have uncovered the secret of how Lotus' E21 is looking after Pirelli's highly-degrading tyres so well in 2013.
"We believe that their integrated chassis (system) is working best of all," said Mercedes' Aldo Costa.
Auto Motor und Sport said not only Mercedes, but also Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari, Williams and Sauber have been working on similar technology.
It links the four corners of the car hydraulically, balancing the car during braking and accelerating, and adjusting the balance as the fuel load lessens during a race.
Mercedes team boss Ross Brawn admitted: "Lotus has the simplest, but probably the best system."
The news could also explain Romain Grosjean's struggle versus Kimi Raikkonen so far in 2013.
Auto Motor und Sport correspondent Michael Schmidt said the 'Fric' systems are notoriously difficult to tune.
Lotus team owner Gerard Lopez admits: "The suspension tuning window is very small, and we get it right more often with Kimi than with Grosjean."
This is due to the drivers' respective driving styles, with Frenchman Grosjean reportedly preferring understeer to Raikkonen's oversteer.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:33 AM   #801
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:40 AM   #802
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Force India look to be struggling with downforce


Sutil and Di Resta each better have a big meal pre-race or they'll never make minimum weight.
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:23 PM   #803
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Personally, I don't believe they should race in Bahrain. There's no simple solution to the problems of minority vs majority populations, never has been anywhere in the world. But F1 should not be in the business of promoting repression.

The NBC crew talked about the active suspension last race, first time I'd heard about it. They said Lotus and Mercedes were the leaders. They also suggested that if one team gets too good at it, someone will complain and Charlie Whiting will then have to make a ruling.

Brawn's comments imply a surprising level of knowledge about the details of a competing team's top secret technology. Huh.

McLaren are an odd team. Seems like every year they are there or thereabouts. Yet they cannot close the deal. Are they not good enough? Or are they a wee bit arrogant and they overreach technically, putting themselves in a difficult position?
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:18 PM   #804
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The NBC crew talked about the active suspension last race, first time I'd heard about it. They said Lotus and Mercedes were the leaders. They also suggested that if one team gets too good at it, someone will complain and Charlie Whiting will then have to make a ruling.

Brawn's comments imply a surprising level of knowledge about the details of a competing team's top secret technology. Huh.
I guess Mercedes has been working on it for about 3 years
a good article on the why's of inter-linked suspension

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McLaren are an odd team. Seems like every year they are there or thereabouts. Yet they cannot close the deal. Are they not good enough? Or are they a wee bit arrogant and they overreach technically, putting themselves in a difficult position?
not quite sure what the reason is there. I always put it down to being too conservative.

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Personally, I don't believe they should race in Bahrain. There's no simple solution to the problems of minority vs majority populations, never has been anywhere in the world. But F1 should not be in the business of promoting repression.
the whole thing just seems bizarre. I suspect we don't get the whole story & there is tons of money involved!
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not quite sure what the reason is there. I always put it down to being too conservative
And yet, this year instead of taking the "conservative" option of developing what was arguably the best car by the end of last season, McLaren decided to go for a very different car, swapping the whole front end to a pull-rod suspension for example.

For me, it isn't a coincidence that McLaren's fall off in F1 success in the past decade happens at a time when they've designed, developed and introduced their MP4-12C road car. Since it has been launched, McLaren have built a whole new facility at Woking. I think that their has been some loss of focus on the F1 side of their business.
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For me, it isn't a coincidence that McLaren's fall off in F1 success in the past decade happens at a time when they've designed, developed and introduced their MP4-12C road car. Since it has been launched, McLaren have built a whole new facility at Woking. I think that their has been some loss of focus on the F1 side of their business.
I can't help but wonder about Martin Whitmarsh, too.
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And we are into the knockout round... Q3 underway.
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This is going to be an interesting start. Ferrari owns the second row. But the car seems to make good starts. So Vettel and Rosberg could find themselves under pressure. And with passing as hard as it is in Bahrain, leading after lap 1 is important.

Massa being on the harder tire could deliver him the lead somewhere around the 10th lap. If he's leading and Alonso is second, team orders will come into play. Ferrari make no bones about that.

It's nice to see a fresh team on pole.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:07 PM   #809
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Perhaps McLaren is focusing on next years new car?
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:25 AM   #810
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Who's carrying the race today? I went to SPEED to watch it, but it's not on.
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