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Old 04-22-2013, 08:56 PM   #2116
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Put yourself in his shoes...You have a yr old kid, fanily life is becoming more important and your job is high stakes and high risk. What are your chances of winning again, this time on another bike? Would you risk it? What happens if you don't win the next Dakar (for whatever reason...) - will you be written off?

Or do you bow out while the going is good and maybe move into a buggy with Al Attiyah or something else? You still have your name, you are no longer expected to be the lead dog...the pressure is off and you can learn a new vehicle.

I'm not saying he will NOT go over to Honda, but its almost the middle of the year and there is no sign of Despres.....

I think if he is not with Honda, he may be into something else altogether.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:08 PM   #2117
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Wicked thinking the same thing

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I was thinking about Cyril's situation yesterday and was wondering about the possibility of him starting his own team using a KTM?
I was thinking if all else fails to start up his own team, prob has the money for it and the sponsors? Petter Solberg did it in the WRC for two years, so how hard can it be for one race .
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:01 PM   #2118
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Hes lookin at pipes.. maybe he has a deal like Knighter


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Old 04-22-2013, 10:21 PM   #2119
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Hes lookin at pipes.. maybe he has a deal like Knighter


Or off the shoulder track suit tops?

He screams 'I bat for the other side' in some of his pics
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Old 04-23-2013, 06:48 AM   #2120
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Put yourself in his shoes...You have a yr old kid, fanily life is becoming more important and your job is high stakes and high risk. What are your chances of winning again, this time on another bike? Would you risk it? What happens if you don't win the next Dakar (for whatever reason...) - will you be written off?

Or do you bow out while the going is good and maybe move into a buggy with Al Attiyah or something else? You still have your name, you are no longer expected to be the lead dog...the pressure is off and you can learn a new vehicle.

I'm not saying he will NOT go over to Honda, but its almost the middle of the year and there is no sign of Despres.....

I think if he is not with Honda, he may be into something else altogether.
It's possible but it takes a very big competitor to resist the lure of remaining on top. Not many have the right mindset to hang it up at the very pinnacle of a career. A change in family life could be that driver.

I would be disappointed to see Despres move to buggies. To see him move from the quintessential factory team to a half baked privateer buggy would just be wrong in my opinion. The way I see it, there is almost no competition in the car segment. A few identity challenged mini's racing each other and Robby chasing from a completely separate class. Quite frankly, at this past Dakar, I paid almost no attention to the cars at all. Without another big team jumping in, I don't see much attraction to make the move unless Peterhansel moves on to trucks and leaves an open spot at the top for Despres.

No matter what happens, I don't think we'll ever see Despres back on a KTM. I think that bridge is nothing but smoldering embers at this point.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:47 AM   #2121
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Hes lookin at pipes.. maybe he has a deal like Knighter


Well his shoes match his shirt.....
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:43 AM   #2122
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Well his shoes match his shirt.....
His laces match his shoes which match his shirt...off the shoulder hoodie....no comment
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:42 AM   #2123
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Well his shoes match his shirt.....
Ok, one thing for sure, he is still on the Red Bull books as there is no way that f*****g hat matches
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:53 AM   #2124
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Ok, one thing for sure, he is still on the Red Bull books as there is no way that f*****g hat matches
Could be worse, he could be wearing the bandana again!
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:07 PM   #2125
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It's possible but it takes a very big competitor to resist the lure of remaining on top. Not many have the right mindset to hang it up at the very pinnacle of a career. A change in family life could be that driver.

I would be disappointed to see Despres move to buggies. To see him move from the quintessential factory team to a half baked privateer buggy would just be wrong in my opinion. The way I see it, there is almost no competition in the car segment. A few identity challenged mini's racing each other and Robby chasing from a completely separate class. Quite frankly, at this past Dakar, I paid almost no attention to the cars at all. Without another big team jumping in, I don't see much attraction to make the move unless Peterhansel moves on to trucks and leaves an open spot at the top for Despres.

No matter what happens, I don't think we'll ever see Despres back on a KTM. I think that bridge is nothing but smoldering embers at this point.
Why is it exactly smoldering embers with KTM?
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:25 PM   #2126
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Why is it exactly smoldering embers with KTM?
The last round of contract negotiations that broke down left both sides a little more than cold towards each other. At least as I've heard it.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:41 AM   #2127
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fwiw. I wouldn't be surprised if Cyril Despres hooked up with Yamaha, especially with the French team underpinning.

From a purely competitive point of view (of which we know CD most certainly is), he is one win away from matching fellow countryman Stephane Peterhansel's Dakar record of six wins on a bike - a Yamaha bike no less.

I can see Cyril wanting to match and beat that record, and what sweeter way than on a Yamaha too?

From a more practical point of view, Yamaha France have a long history of developing the WR (and latterly the YZF) based bikes, and Olivier Pain and David Casteu especially have proved the machine has the pace, and lets not forget that Helder Rodrigues put a WR on the Dakar podium when KTM were still racing 690s!

I think what has let Yamaha France down in the past has been budget, especially when compared to the might of the factory KTM team/s.

Without the money and the corresponding focus of the 'best' people available, the project has never been ultimately successful - certainly not when you are up against the might of the KTM factory.

But that could change if you bring in Cyril (arguably the best rider both physically and tactically in the world), his team associates, and not least his sponsors' money?

Personally I don't see the Honda thing happening with Cyril - not this year at any rate... there is too much to lose on either side with a still unproven machine? If Honda employ the #1 rider and it doesn't work out for ANY reason, there will be so much egg on faces I'm not sure either side would live it down? Cyril is bound to blame the bike/factory, and the last thing Honda want's is that sort of high-profile criticism... It would not end well.

Therefore I like the 'romantic' notion that Cyril will go all patriotic for his record matching (and subsequently beating) campaign over the next two years - on a Yamaha, with an all-French team. He really has nothing left to prove now, other than the personal goal of being the 'best' Dakar rider ever...

It will also give him Carte Blanche with the ASO of course! "Technical infringements? what technical infringements?!" "Here, have my gloves Monsieur Despres!"

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Old 04-24-2013, 02:44 AM   #2128
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Well his shoes match his shirt.....
Blue shoes, blue shirt... the message is subliminal x

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Old 04-24-2013, 03:06 AM   #2129
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Blue shoes, blue shirt... the message is subliminal x

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ok, it could be the rally raid deal of the year....Cyril steps into Peterhansels
booooots..... but who could be his watercarriers ?

Casteu and Verhoeven are not so good friends with him , i think...


big , big surprises, we have to wait !
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:06 PM   #2130
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