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Old 04-22-2013, 09:02 PM   #34951
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Does anyone actually read this thread before posting???

WR250R Rake/Trail: 26.7 / 4.37"
WR250X Rake/Trail: 25.3 / 2.99" - they are supposed to be different, but only due to wheels - no need to "slide in triples" unless you want 250R geometry off road on a 250X.

WR250R wheel base: 55.9"
WR250X wheel base: 56.1", due to different sprockets ONLY


WR250R GC / Travel f/r: 11.8" / 10.6" / 10.6"
WR250X GC / Travel f/r: 10.4"/ 10.6" / 10.6", due only to wheel diameter and tire profiles.

Suspensions are the SAME including internal valving; initial settings are different.

Transmission gear ratios are IDENTICAL (unlike SMS 630 / TE630).

Forks, frame, and swing arm are identical. Front brake rotors are different, of course.
Sprockets change the wheelbase measurement?

Isn't wheelbase measured from the center of the hubs?

Currently in learning mode as I picked up a practically new '12 R this past Friday. Had it in the bed of the truck the entire CoTA MotoGP weekend.

Hope there's room for one more inmate on this thread.

I'm going to use it to fart around dirt and gravel roads around here, basically motorized hiking. My GS is too much of a pig and my skill level low. The KLR is ok but I wanted something lighter. We'll see how this goes. Was going to dual sport the KDX but I think this WRR will fit the bill.

I do need to figure out the wheel thing as I want to swap SM and DS wheels quickly. Am thinking of having SM wheels laced to WRR hubs.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:06 PM   #34952
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:53 PM   #34953
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Sprockets change the wheelbase measurement?

Isn't wheelbase measured from the center of the hubs?
Yep. Use a bigger rear sprocket and the same length chain and the center-to-center hub distance will change slightly. A bigger sprocket will force the rear hub very slightly forward with the same length chain. Two-tenths of an inch isn't much - it's the same swing arm, but different rear sprocket.
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:52 AM   #34954
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That is some great ridding!!!
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:28 AM   #34955
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Am I the only one who rides 72 miles of mostly paved roads just so I can play in the dirt?

At this point, I don't have a trailer or truck or friends who are willing/able to take me.

Doing this, I don't think a rear D606 will last very long so I'm considering alternatives.

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Old 04-23-2013, 04:41 AM   #34956
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Am I the only one who rides 72 miles of mostly paved roads just so I can play in the dirt?

At this point, I don't have a trailer or truck or friends who are willing/able to take me.

Doing this, I don't think a rear D606 will last very long so I'm considering alternatives.

Thanks
MT43 Pirelli rear is my tire of choice for my WR-R with 22K miles after trying numerous other brands/styles. Like riding on velcro. I get around 3K from a MT43 and it works about as well at the end of its tread life as when new. $30 less than a D606 too.

For the front I've just switched from D606 to the MT21 Pirelli. I liked the D606 a little better, but it's directional and when I turned around after cupping began it adversely affected handling. The MT21 isn't directional so I hope to be able to get two rear MT43s rears to one MT21 front. We'll see.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:44 AM   #34957
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I'm in the process of buying WRR. Could you share what was your OTD price if you've bought one recently.
Or if you know what is the dealer mark up should be?

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Old 04-23-2013, 08:13 AM   #34958
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Yep. Use a bigger rear sprocket and the same length chain and the center-to-center hub distance will change slightly. A bigger sprocket will force the rear hub very slightly forward with the same length chain. Two-tenths of an inch isn't much - it's the same swing arm, but different rear sprocket.
Ah, right dat
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:48 AM   #34959
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Am I the only one who rides 72 miles of mostly paved roads just so I can play in the dirt?

At this point, I don't have a trailer or truck or friends who are willing/able to take me.

Doing this, I don't think a rear D606 will last very long so I'm considering alternatives.

Thanks
I don't trailer my WR much, and dirt roads are 20-30 miles away. Only tried three so far on the WR: Stockers, Kenda 270 and Shinko 244. Like the Shinko's the best so far, and the price is cheap enough I don't have to run them bare before I change em.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:00 AM   #34960
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I don't trailer my WR much, and dirt roads are 20-30 miles away. Only tried three so far on the WR: Stockers, Kenda 270 and Shinko 244. Like the Shinko's the best so far, and the price is cheap enough I don't have to run them bare before I change em.
Yep I really like the Shinko 244's on my WR. I get around 3k outa the rear tire with lots of road riding.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:04 AM   #34961
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Hi all ! Thanks for all the info regarding suspension set-up on my friend's X converted to R off road bike . Knowing the the forks and shock springs and length are the same makes it a lot simpler . Does he need to pull the shock to set the preload?? thx again guys.......brad
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:30 AM   #34962
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Reading through longer threads is very educational, and not just for information on a specific bike. In reading (over several months) this thread, and the huge DR650 thread, and the Super Tenere thread (just those three), I've learned more about old technology, new technology, other bikes, accessories and mods, riding techniques, maintenance, planning for trips, and fixing things in the field, than I have anywhere else in the past 10 years.
While I agree with this totally in theory, trying to read this thread from start to finish is like the sentence of Sisyphus pushing that damn giant boulder uphill forever. I've spent all my free time for days on end reading the Mega thread only to realize afterwards that the thread had grown by more pages than I'd read. If I took a day off, fugetaboutit, it grew by multiples of what I could skim in a day. Since I have a job and family, reading the entire thread from start to finish is impossible.
That being said, it's easy to use google to search for specific info within the thread. The link is posted every time you get a "D'oh!" message from the search engine. Just open the link, change the search parameters in the example and cut/paste it into your search engine. Easy peasy...
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:34 AM   #34963
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I used to ride about 100 miles each way to get to a good dirt play ground, the D606's lasted just fine. I typically got 4000 miles out of a rear, but have stretched as much as 7500 out of one.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:42 AM   #34964
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I believe the rotor and brake components are a bit better on the X vs. R.

With that in mind, has anybody laced DS wheels to the X hubs to benefit from the better brakes?

I'm tempted to lace R hubs to SM wheels to be able to switch back and forth quickly but am wondering if there is anything to gain from doing it as I describe above, DS wheels on X components.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:50 AM   #34965
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I believe the rotor and brake components are a bit better on the X vs. R.

With that in mind, has anybody laced DS wheels to the X hubs to benefit from the better brakes?

I'm tempted to lace R hubs to SM wheels to be able to switch back and forth quickly but am wondering if there is anything to gain from doing it as I describe above, DS wheels on X components.
did you miss this from the last page?

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Fine, lets make this easy...

X mode...



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