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Old 04-22-2013, 11:17 AM   #46
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So how worn is worn? I cant understand how some of you get 10K or more from a rear tire. Do you run it until the threads are close to showing,is there still a small amount of tread in the middle? I put just over 3500 miles on new Metz Me88's on a 01 E Glide and the rear is squared off from freeway runnin and bald on the contact patch. The tire was rebranded by Metz over the O/E sidewall spec with the max pressure or 50psi IIRC so thats what I run. I thought is was bad doin a Pirelli N/D every oil change on the Dyna but 3500 miles can be for real. Shinko's, Michelins? any advice? The Dunlops were better but not by much.

On the older Glides ( had one for many years, now have an '11 glide ) 4k or so it common milage. How I looked at was - Glides are around 800lbs and the rear tire on the older ones is relativly narrow , so they sqare off quickly and just can't last that long due to the weight and the smaller contact patch.

On the 11 I have now, the Glide weighs close to 800 fully loaded, but the tire is a lot wider and the compound in the center is harder. 11k on it the rear tire, it is not squared off and looks to be able to get more than 15k on it.
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:19 AM   #47
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Michelin Commander II. Up to twice the mileage with these tires compared to the Metzelers.

Dunlops used to suck big time... They did change their tire structure/compound in the last year or two. Now their tires actually last a reasonable miles without scalloping.

I run Michelins on my cruisers.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:11 PM   #48
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We get 10-15k on the Dunlops and 15-25k on the Michelins.
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:40 AM   #49
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so , do you apply this wisdom to your four wheeled vehicles as well ? And run the max pressure on the side of the tire ? You really don't know what you're talking about.
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..or bike & car manufacturers would just say "run what the sidewall says" in the manual.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should do a braking test with "recommended" pressures
and then with sidewall maximum pressure. Or ask around on a track where lives depend
on 1 PSI.
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:44 AM   #50
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The tire is a Dunlop Winter Sport - 195/55R16.


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Why winter?
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:39 AM   #51
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Anyone who thinks otherwise should do a braking test with "recommended" pressures
and then with sidewall maximum pressure. Or ask around on a track where lives depend
on 1 PSI.


When riding on the track one's only concern is traction, therefore you lower the pressure. You are not concerned with mileage or temperature or ride of the tire.

Do what you want because everyone has their own opinion and it doesn't seem to matter what facts are put out there. Done and out. All ride safe.
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:31 PM   #52
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On an 850 lb Venture, will get 15000+ on a Dunlop Elite3. Avon Venom will provide 12-14000 miles. Dunlop D404 - never again. 4000-4500 miles. POS they are.

E3 or Avon.
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:02 PM   #53
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I get 10k easily (best was around 15k miles) on my rear and have gotten 22k out of a front, Harley changed the tires for the 09 and later models (Dunlop) with a harder compound in the center and softer on the sidewalls. Most of my friends who ride older Harleys are switching to the Michelin Commanders, they're telling me it's cheaper than the Dunlops and wears better. I've also had a V65 Sabre for 20 something years and I could go through a rear tire in 3500 miles and the front in 6-7k miles
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:16 PM   #54
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go to the "darkside", put a car tire on your bike,,,
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:20 AM   #55
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Do what you want because everyone has their own opinion and it doesn't seem to matter what facts are put out there. Done and out. All ride safe.
People tend to base their opinions without any prior knowledge.
This should be common sense, though.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:24 AM   #56
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And to answer the OP.. I had 16.500 miles on my BT020's when I replaced
them on my Kawasaki 650R, which is a nice & torquey twin. The rear was
still not at the wear bars, and I used to slide around the rear around town
frequently in the last 2-3k miles.

It's down to very slick city roads around here, they're as polished as glass
and there's no traction. I could power-slide my 9hp scooter on some
intersections.

Of course, the BT020's being made out of mixed lego plastic and stone helps
too.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:40 AM   #57
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Why winter?

Have you read Rollin's ride reports? 25,000 miles is a five day trip to Starbucks...I'm thinking he's going to Prudhoe Bay.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:45 AM   #58
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No, I'm outta the loop.

Winter tires have softer compound = more wear in higher temps &
they overheat.. at least that's what happens when they're used on cars.
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:29 PM   #59
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On an 850 lb Venture, will get 15000+ on a Dunlop Elite3. Avon Venom will provide 12-14000 miles. Dunlop D404 - never again. 4000-4500 miles. POS they are.

E3 or Avon.
I had fairly good luck with Dunlop 404's,got about 10k outa the rear before it squared off.My Honda only weighs about 575 lbs though and it was all highway miles.I replaced them with BT45's just to try something different,not enough miles yet to make a good judgement but I like then so far
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:59 AM   #60
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Another vote for the dark-side. It really does work well. Try it. You can get a car tire for most large tourers for about $100.
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