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Old 04-23-2013, 10:25 PM   #4606
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Old 04-24-2013, 04:50 AM   #4607
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My bike is up and running after a bit of overwinter work,mainly just servicing and a few modifications,surprisingly,both sets of wheel and swing arm bearings were still good.

All ready for this summers ride....
I am jealous !
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:06 AM   #4608
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Walter, Terry, guys with FX-R bixenon projectors, how did your waterproofing hold out?
What method or improvements can you think of?

Also, were your projectors hard mounted onto the front subframe or were they rubber-mounted or somehow dampened?

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Old 04-24-2013, 09:23 AM   #4609
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:39 AM   #4610
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My bike is up and running after a bit of overwinter work,mainly just servicing and a few modifications,surprisingly,both sets of wheel and swing arm bearings were still good.

All ready for this summers ride....
Tony doesn't put unnecessary stress on his equipment, remember!




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Old 04-24-2013, 10:05 AM   #4611
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The famous Tony lives in Moscow, i,m the lesser known Terry, no not "bongo brown" as someone mentioned....
I,m off at the end of May,nothing as adventurous as last year i,m afraid, but i will be away most of the summer.
I,ve a few friends i want to catch up with.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:05 AM   #4612
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Well mine also had a bit of perspex covering both lights as part of the replica KTM fairing. The lights are never totally dust and waterproof as the back, where the bulb goes in, lets in air and therefore moisture at times.

They were hard mounted. Its the job of the front forks to dampen them.


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Walter, Terry, guys with FX-R bixenon projectors, how did your waterproofing hold out?
What method or improvements can you think of?

Also, were your projectors hard mounted onto the front subframe or were they rubber-mounted or somehow dampened?

Cheers!



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Old 04-24-2013, 10:53 AM   #4613
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The famous Tony lives in Moscow, i,m the lesser known Terry, no not "bongo brown" as someone mentioned....
I,m off at the end of May,nothing as adventurous as last year i,m afraid, but i will be away most of the summer.
I,ve a few friends i want to catch up with.
Well drat....Sorry Tony, you would have wheelied that scary river. Terry and Rod used the magic bongo solution.

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Old 04-24-2013, 07:38 PM   #4614
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:54 PM   #4615
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:37 AM   #4616
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Saw this, on the BBC website and thought about your ride through the area.
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:56 PM   #4617
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Saw this, on the BBC website and thought about your ride through the area.
Very spooky! Thanks for sharing.
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Old 04-30-2013, 03:51 PM   #4618
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To be fair to Ewan and Charley they had no idea what they were doing when they began. The only known reference points they had were Ted Simon's book Jupiter's Travels and then they bought copies of Austin Vinces Mondo Enduro and Terra Circa DVDs prior to depouarture. In any case they didn't heed the lessons you could have taken from those sources. And also to be fair to Ewan and Charley the big lessons about bike and luggage selection that you could take from Long Way Round are skipped over by most. But to me the lessons are all there in the film.

They only had two proper off road bits in the entire trip - Mongolia and the Road of Bones - and they did not complete either of them. In Mongolia, Ewan was in tears regarding how difficult it was and how he wanted to bug out to Russia at the first opportunity. The rolled 4wd gave them that chance. On the Road of Bones, the constant picking up of heavy bikes pulled out Charleys back. That again gave them the chance to just use the trucks that were part of their escort convoy.

In between Mongolia and the Road of Bones, they realised everything was too heavy and tried to ditch as much weight as possible.

So for me the message is clear - despite good health, good fitness, young age, Charley being a very competent off road rider, training courses, all bike spares being carried in the trucks, the guys struggled so much off road that they were unable to complete the only two significant off road parts of the entire trip, because they were on 320 kg bikes.

In all of the romance of the adventure and Claudios beautiful videography, that message seems to have gotten lost.


Claudio was out riding them on this when his Beemer broke down in Mongolia.

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Old 04-30-2013, 10:07 PM   #4619
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I love both of these RRs!! I have been plowing through Sibirsky both at work and at home. Such and amazing trip!! Thank you W for taking us along on such an amazing ride...

Buuurrrt, I loved your Mongolia trip. I have dreams of sipping vodka at a campsite and eating steppe stew. Your trip was inspirational. Thank you.

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I have been following your report for some time and now that you are in Mongolia I thought I would post to say how much fun we had while exploring that beautiful country in Sept 2012. 3 of us on purchased "Shinray 150 Mustangs" 3 weeks of riding, the scenery, people, birds etc. I just can't say enough about how wonderful Mongolia is.

From Mongolia 2012




Do they drink vodka in Mongolia? Yes they do!!


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I don't mean to hijack your wonderful thread but if anyone is interested in seeing a report on our trip.

Please click here. I would love to hear what you think.

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:50 AM   #4620
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I have probably prepared and ridden more bikes for more tough adventure bike trips than almost anyone. Each time I do it, the bikes are better ... faster ... tougher. I thought back to my flying days and the failsafe engineering that goes into aircraft. It doesnt matter how well you build an aircraft - or how overengineered it is - the airframe can only take so much before it has to be pensioned off. And it occurred to me that maybe asking a bike, any bike, to do something as demanding as this trip, this Sibirsky Extreme Trail, from start to finish, at the speeds you need to go at to finish it on schedule, was possibly asking more out of the bike than its possible to put into a bike. After 2010, when I rode from Magadan to Holland with zero problems with the bike, nothing that needed to be fixed and just 2 bolts and a fuel tank cap that needed to be replaced (after Mongolia ironically) that I thought the bike was bulletproof. But that trip was only 8500 km (5300 miles) off road. The rest was asphalt. This trip was 18,000 km off road. Certainly for the first 8,500 - even 10,000 km of offroad, the bike remained bulletproof. But now that I was up to 12,000 km off road, the difference was beginning to show. It occurred to me that there is a limit. Maybe at this pace, you can not get more than 10,000 km of offroad in before you start to run into issues. Thats when I began to wonder .... is this trail the toughest test you can reasonably put an adventure bike through? Maybe I had even gone too far this time. Maybe this much off road is too much (without rebuilding the bike).
When steel is not strong enough its time to build a bike out of something stronger like carbon fiber.
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