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Old 05-02-2013, 10:01 AM   #826
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Very annoyed, but not surprised, that the dumb ass media is blaming this accident on speed. That guy was doing less than 30 MPH, guaranteed. The fact that the cyclist was not killed is testament to this fact. The only things that caused the accident were target fixation and no useful understanding of how to really countersteer. So for all you guys who say "fuck countersteering, just go ride the damn bike," THAT is why you learn how to consciously countersteer, because there WILL be a day where you need to suddenly lean more and turn sharper than you were expecting.

Idiots like that guy are not helping the image of motorcycling.

At least he was geared up.


The Cyclists were doing everything right! I have 0 sympathy for this rider, what a complete idiot, he clearly needs more practice before trying to ride at any speed on a road like that.

It kills me when I come across bicyclists that have no regard for anyone else on the road, the Lance wannabes that are riding 3+ wide going uphill around blind corners and won't move over; or the guys that have no regard for traffic signals, signs or right a ways. Those fuckers are the ones that you'd expect to get hit. It's a shame that these guys were respectful cyclists that were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:26 AM   #827
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It kills me when I come across bicyclists that have no regard for anyone else on the road, the Lance wannabes that are riding 3+ wide going uphill around blind corners and won't move over; or the guys that have no regard for traffic signals, signs or right a ways. Those fuckers are the ones that you'd expect to get hit. It's a shame that these guys were respectful cyclists that were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I hit one good a while back or should I say he hit me, carbon fiber bicycle v.s. Ford F-350 super duty diesel guess who won, total riders fault and he was given a written warning for failure to grant right away "tried to pass me on the right while I was turning right". But I have to say this the accident was unfortunate for all partys involved and glad to see no one seriously hurt.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:21 PM   #828
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I hit one good a while back or should I say he hit me, carbon fiber bicycle v.s. Ford F-350 super duty diesel guess who won, total riders fault and he was given a written warning for failure to grant right away "tried to pass me on the right while I was turning right". But I have to say this the accident was unfortunate for all partys involved and glad to see no one seriously hurt.
Anyone who's stupid enough to run up the right side of a vehicle with its right turn signal on deserves what they get. If I know there's a cyclist coming up behind me, I won't leave him enough room to do that. He can wait his effing turn just like everyone else.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:56 PM   #829
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His eyes were stuck to his faceshield. He SHOULD have been able to go either way.....but no he aced the poor dude on a bike up the tail pipe, there literally isn't a smaller target on the road.

Fixated like a mother, that guy on the SV was only going one way sadly, lucky for him he latched onto the cyclist and not on coming traffic. Sucks ass for those cyclists though.
hit the nail on the head. I feel bad for bikes with owners like that who get a bad rap. That bike is capable of sooooo much more.
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:32 PM   #830
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Very annoyed, but not surprised, that the dumb ass media is blaming this accident on speed. That guy was doing less than 30 MPH, guaranteed. The fact that the cyclist was not killed is testament to this fact. The only things that caused the accident were target fixation and no useful understanding of how to really countersteer. So for all you guys who say "fuck countersteering, just go ride the damn bike," THAT is why you learn how to consciously countersteer, because there WILL be a day where you need to suddenly lean more and turn sharper than you were expecting.

Idiots like that guy are not helping the image of motorcycling.

At least he was geared up.
While understanding countersteering might have helped, turning his heads to look where he wanted the bike to go would have done the trick even if he had never heard the term "countersteering."
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:22 PM   #831
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Ducati wrong lane crash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNfFLuUC1QA

Beside the obvious, riding in the wrong lane, what did he do wrong? He didn't use his front brake and didn't look like he was leaning very far. Loss of traction on painted yellow center line combined with rolling off throttle too quickly?

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:30 PM   #832
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Expensive first or almost first outing on that Duc. I can't see anything except new tires on the centerline caused lack of traction.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:32 PM   #833
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1+. center line loss of traction. Looks almost like the rear first slide followed almost immediately by the front. Those stripes are nasty and can bite you if crossed.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:34 PM   #834
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Where I am and maybe there, the lines aren't painted but are plastic laid down and glued to the surface. These are bad news when dry like in the video. They are like ice when wet.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:35 PM   #835
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I've owned twins before, other than the possibility of the paint I would go with too heavy up front by the tank while giving it juice (tons of torque on the twins). He should have pressed on the right peg to weigh in the bike and stand her up, while slowly rolling the power on.
But who knows, that's just my experience with twins.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:18 PM   #836
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I looked to me like the rear tire was sliding a little before he hit the yellow line, then hitting it caused total loss of traction. Probably a new tire and still virgin rubber at the edges. When he leaned it that far it started to slide.

Notice how one of the bystanders gave him shit for going around that curve in the wrong lane.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:24 PM   #837
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One more reason to not cross the centerline.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:44 PM   #838
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what a douche. totaled the bike with 48 months left in payments?
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:48 PM   #839
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his buddy does a nice job avoiding the whole ordeal
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:52 PM   #840
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Well trained bike - came right back to him.
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