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Old 05-03-2013, 01:07 PM   #61
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Was wondering about the new Ducati also. What changes have they made to the bike? I haven't heard anything...
Being able to qickly adjust frame flex from what I understand.

Edit: I can see we're all reading the same propaganda.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:14 PM   #62
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I think Dovi said Pirro was running new frame and engine management. But really, I am not sure how much truthful details about what they are testing will be given out.
Excuse the crappy phone photos:

Hayden's GP13:


Pirro's Lab bike:



Note the different frame. Here's a link to the full size version of that photo
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:19 PM   #63
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The angle of the perpendicular to the ground spar makes the frame look like something from Honda or Yamaha.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:36 PM   #64
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So Dovi and Nicky are riding the new bike on Monday?
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:57 PM   #65
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So Dovi and Nicky are riding the new bike on Monday?
Yes, if Nicky's hand holds up.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:51 PM   #66
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Excuse the crappy phone photos:

Hayden's GP13:

No need to apologize... it's the bike that sucks, not the camera.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:55 PM   #67
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Please beat me over the head for going off topic/ranting but those pictures illustrate one mistake every damn motorcycle manufacture makes (that I am aware of) in that they all put their clip ons on at some ridiculous back swept and downward angle and many can’t be adjusted when nearly all racers run them much flatter and much straighter. If they are trying to make repli-racers at least get that part right and save everyone the hassle/expense having to get new bars.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:59 PM   #68
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But what's up with Bradl? 1.5 sec back in 14th

Given the bike he has, expectations are for him to be further up there, no?
Bradl had a pretty big get off in FP2. Not sure if he is banged up, but the crash would explain his low rank in FP2.

Combined times from FP1 and FP2 look a bit different from FP2 alone.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:09 PM   #69
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From the look of him in the garage after he's OK.
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Bradl had a pretty big get off in FP2. Not sure if he is banged up, but the crash would explain his low rank in FP2.

Combined times from FP1 and FP2 look a bit different from FP2 alone.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:11 PM   #70
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Being able to qickly adjust frame flex from what I understand.

Edit: I can see we're all reading the same propaganda.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:26 PM   #71
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Yes! I love seeing that!
OK, is it youth and treachery overtaking old age and wisdom? I just don't understand why Nicky has been slower than Dovi and now Crazy Joe on basically the same bike, which Nicky has been riding a gazillion years.

Oh, and why does Pirro get to ride the new bike first??? WTF?
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:37 PM   #72
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OK, is it youth and treachery overtaking old age and wisdom? I just don't understand why Nicky has been slower than Dovi and now Crazy Joe on basically the same bike, which Nicky has been riding a gazillion years.

Oh, and why does Pirro get to ride the new bike first??? WTF?
So if it sucks, it doesn't ruin Nicky and Dovi's efforts in Jerez.
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OK, is it youth and treachery overtaking old age and wisdom? I just don't understand why Nicky has been slower than Dovi and now Crazy Joe on basically the same bike, which Nicky has been riding a gazillion years.

Oh, and why does Pirro get to ride the new bike first??? WTF?
1. Pirro is the food taster...err...test guinea pig.

2. Hayden appeared to be using hard front and rear tires though out FP2, most likely working on a race set up. He has been faster than Dovi in both sesions.

Crazy Joe is plenty fast. He has arm pump issues though and may not do so well in the race.
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Combined times for comparison

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Nation Team MOTORCYCLE FP1 FP2 Gap
1 99 Yamaha Factory Racing J.LORENZO SPA YAMAHA 1'39.701 17 1'39.562 4
2 26 Repsol Honda Team D.PEDROSA SPA HONDA 1'39.704 11 1'39.757 4 0.142 0.142
3 35 Monster Yamaha Tech 3 C.CRUTCHLOW GBR YAMAHA 1'40.113 12 1'39.733 5 0.171 0.029
4 46 Yamaha Factory Racing V.ROSSI ITA YAMAHA 1'40.067 20 1'39.874 16 0.312 0.141
5 93 Repsol Honda Team M.MARQUEZ SPA HONDA 1'40.485 15 1'39.889 15 0.327 0.015
6 19 GO&FUN Honda Gresini A.BAUTISTA SPA HONDA 1'40.838 17 1'40.507 9 0.945 0.618
7 29 Energy T.I. Pramac Racing A.IANNONE ITA DUCATI 1'41.078 11 1'40.574 15 1.012 0.067
8 69 Ducati Team N.HAYDEN USA DUCATI 1'40.722 14 1'40.837 18 1.160 0.148
9 8 Avintia Blusens H.BARBERA SPA FTR 1'41.340 11 1'40.736 14 1.174 0.014
10 41 Power Electronics Aspar A.ESPARGARO SPA ART 1'40.910 13 1'40.738 12 1.176 0.002
11 6 LCR Honda MotoGP S.BRADL GER HONDA 1'40.799 20 1'41.053 13 1.237 0.061
12 4 Ducati Team A.DOVIZIOSO ITA DUCATI 1'40.944 13 1'40.884 14 1.322 0.085
13 51 Ducati Test Team M.PIRRO ITA DUCATI 1'41.326 10 1'40.902 13 1.340 0.018
14 38 Monster Yamaha Tech 3 B.SMITH GBR YAMAHA 1'41.778 20 1'40.990 21 1.428 0.088
15 14 Power Electronics Aspar R.DE PUNIET FRA ART 1'41.431 7 1'41.078 18 1.516 0.088
16 7 Avintia Blusens H.AOYAMA JPN FTR 1'41.671 15 1'41.774 18 2.109 0.593
17 9 Came IodaRacing Project D.PETRUCCI ITA IODA-SUTER 1'42.160 20 1'41.751 14 2.189 0.080
18 5 NGM Mobile Forward Racing C.EDWARDS USA FTR KAWASAKI 1'41.764 19 1'42.058 10 2.202 0.013
19 71 NGM Mobile Forward Racing C.CORTI ITA FTR KAWASAKI 1'42.727 11 1'41.790 16 2.228 0.026
20 68 Paul Bird Motorsport Y.HERNANDEZ COL ART 1'42.155 15 1'42.603 13 2.593 0.365
21 67 GO&FUN Honda Gresini B.STARING AUS FTR HONDA 1'42.941 18 1'42.606 17 3.044 0.451
22 70 Paul Bird Motorsport M.LAVERTY
GBR PBM 1'43.948 14 1'42.974 13 3.412 0.368
23 17 Cardion AB Motoracing K.ABRAHAM CZE ART 1'43.334 16 1'43.356 9 3.772 0.360
24 52 Came IodaRacing Project L.PESEK CZE IODA-SUTER 1'43.564 13 1'43.403 12 3.841 0.069

Link for easier reading http://resources.motogp.com/files/re...df?v1_d50179bf
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:42 PM   #75
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What I want to see is a scrap between Rossi and Marquez. If Marc finds his mojo this weekend, there might not be a chance for that. But if they are scrapping over second or third, I think it could be fireworks.
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