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Old 05-02-2013, 07:31 AM   #2056
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What bike and how many miles so far on that front?
2001 KLR650,6000 miles and counting on the front,I usually run between 35 to 40 psi,no cupping or strange wear yet,if it starts showing signs I may turn it to see if it will go farther.Once I learn how to post pictures Ill do that.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:51 PM   #2057
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2001 KLR650,6000 miles and counting on the front,I usually run between 35 to 40 psi,no cupping or strange wear yet,if it starts showing signs I may turn it to see if it will go farther.Once I learn how to post pictures Ill do that.
I don't have cupping on the front at 20psi off road and 24psi on road. DR650 with 22,000km on the front. Average 12,000km from a rear.

The bike itself is at 120,000km now.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:10 PM   #2058
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:27 PM   #2059
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Has anyone run a front 705 on a heavy bike like a DL, Tiger or a GS completely out? By worn out, I mean, worn slap. Not removed because it was getting "thin" or it was cupping.

I'm getting close but like others, it's starting to cup pretty bad now and when I get to the end of my 2nd rear tire {one car tire that went 13K and one 705 that looks like maybe 4K if lucky} and man, I really want to run knobbies this go round.

I think the cupping is just a by-product of the mileage these tire give and the fact that I tend to run the fronts at fairly low pressures when playing around the house since they do last so long.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:46 AM   #2060
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Has anyone run a front 705 on a heavy bike like a DL, Tiger or a GS completely out? By worn out, I mean, worn slap. Not removed because it was getting "thin" or it was cupping.

I'm getting close but like others, it's starting to cup pretty bad now and when I get to the end of my 2nd rear tire {one car tire that went 13K and one 705 that looks like maybe 4K if lucky} and man, I really want to run knobbies this go round.

I think the cupping is just a by-product of the mileage these tire give and the fact that I tend to run the fronts at fairly low pressures when playing around the house since they do last so long.
Low pressure and braking is what cups a front.
Why not just replace it? Front tires are cheap. Tires do not have to be replaced in pairs. And these are cheap tires anyway.
For a knob, TKC. Or for more aggressive, a scorp rally. The latter works really well everywhere, but I wouldn't push them really hard on a big bike, although many do on 950/990's with 606's and 908's. I ran one of the rallies on the front of a TE630 for about 3K miles and it was stellar, railed the corners on tar and very stable off - no washing out unless you really pushed it.
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:48 PM   #2061
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Has anyone run a front 705 on a heavy bike like a DL, Tiger or a GS completely out? By worn out, I mean, worn slap. Not removed because it was getting "thin" or it was cupping.

I'm getting close but like others, it's starting to cup pretty bad now and when I get to the end of my 2nd rear tire {one car tire that went 13K and one 705 that looks like maybe 4K if lucky} and man, I really want to run knobbies this go round.

I think the cupping is just a by-product of the mileage these tire give and the fact that I tend to run the fronts at fairly low pressures when playing around the house since they do last so long.
Nope, mine always cup before they are completely used up.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:41 PM   #2062
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Low pressure and braking is what cups a front.
Why not just replace it? Front tires are cheap. Tires do not have to be replaced in pairs. And these are cheap tires anyway.
For a knob, TKC. Or for more aggressive, a scorp rally. The latter works really well everywhere, but I wouldn't push them really hard on a big bike, although many do on 950/990's with 606's and 908's. I ran one of the rallies on the front of a TE630 for about 3K miles and it was stellar, railed the corners on tar and very stable off - no washing out unless you really pushed it.
'Cause I'm trying to get an accurate handle on just how long a front 705 will last. And yea, I know,,,,, tires don't have to be replaced in pairs. And that's exactly what I was commenting on. My front will have 16K miles on it when this 705 on the rear goes away and while I really want to use it completly up, I don't want to live with a worn front and have a knobby on the rear. Nothing ground shaking and it isn't rocket science, was just thinking out loud,,,, or typing out loud as the case may be.

My DL650 uses a 17 rear so the choices in knobbies isn't no where near that of your Husky. I've tried the Big Blocks and now I have a second rear wheel that I bought just to be able to readily swap to knobbies and it has a TKC on it. Still have a pretty good front Big Block so that's what I'll be running for knobbies,,, least untill that TKC craps in about 2.5K miles.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:54 PM   #2063
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Nope, mine always cup before they are completely used up.

Yea,,, you are right in that a tire that will return as many miles as these front 705s will deliver will just cup naturally but as the other guy and I stated stated, low pressures and hard braking will exacerbate the issue. Pump it up rack hard and do all your miles easy touring and the cupping will not be near as bad nor will it happen as quickly in the tire's life.

The last front I removed had around 12-13K miles {if I rememeber right} on it when it was removed and it showed hardly any cupping compared to this one. It was run at pretty high pressures most of it's life and I was very easy on it with a 9K mile trip on it at one time where I was treating the tires with kid gloves trying to get the rear to last {and it did, barely}. Only when I got home, lowered the pressures and started playing did the c.upping even start to appear
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Old 05-05-2013, 04:15 AM   #2064
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Has anyone run a front 705 on a heavy bike like a DL, Tiger or a GS completely out? By worn out, I mean, worn slap. Not removed because it was getting "thin" or it was cupping.

I'm getting close but like others, it's starting to cup pretty bad now and when I get to the end of my 2nd rear tire {one car tire that went 13K and one 705 that looks like maybe 4K if lucky} and man, I really want to run knobbies this go round.

I think the cupping is just a by-product of the mileage these tire give and the fact that I tend to run the fronts at fairly low pressures when playing around the house since they do last so long.
I run them very successfully on my 955 Tiger. Front always cups beyond usefulness long before wearing out. Mind, that is at 20,000 + kms. I go through 2 rears to a front generally. By the way, pressure seems to have little effect, as I normally run 40+ psi in the front all the time, and they still cup. Its the nature of a deep and spaced out tread pattern flexing on braking. No amount of air pressure is going to cure it in my experience.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:13 AM   #2065
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I have a DL1000 that I just ordered a 705 for. Question is, which front to go with it? The rear is a radial, but the front is available in both radial and bias, with the radial being more expensive. What's the consensus?
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:41 AM   #2066
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I have a DL1000 that I just ordered a 705 for. Question is, which front to go with it? The rear is a radial, but the front is available in both radial and bias, with the radial being more expensive. What's the consensus?
You should run the radial front to match the rear.

And unless it's old stock, I thought they stopped making the front 705 bias 19" tire in the Vstrom sizes? In fact when we put the 705's on my wife's F650GS single which runs the 130 or 140 rear and only comes in bias, I had to look to go find a used bias 19" front to match.
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Dunno. They have both at revzilla.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:05 AM   #2068
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I have a DL1000 that I just ordered a 705 for. Question is, which front to go with it? The rear is a radial, but the front is available in both radial and bias, with the radial being more expensive. What's the consensus?
Run a radial if you can get it, otherwise a bias is fine on front. You just don't want a radial in front and bias in back, can't remember why. Maybe it's a non-issue as well.

Anyway, in 17/19 radials are what's available.

On the XC it has a radial rear in 150/70-17, and a bias front in 90/90-21. Works fine, run the piss out of 'em everywhere, on and off pavement.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:21 AM   #2069
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:55 PM   #2070
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Yea,,, you are right in that a tire that will return as many miles as these front 705s will deliver will just cup naturally but as the other guy and I stated stated, low pressures and hard braking will exacerbate the issue. Pump it up rack hard and do all your miles easy touring and the cupping will not be near as bad nor will it happen as quickly in the tire's life.

The last front I removed had around 12-13K miles {if I rememeber right} on it when it was removed and it showed hardly any cupping compared to this one. It was run at pretty high pressures most of it's life and I was very easy on it with a 9K mile trip on it at one time where I was treating the tires with kid gloves trying to get the rear to last {and it did, barely}. Only when I got home, lowered the pressures and started playing did the c.upping even start to appear
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