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Old 05-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #76351
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A question for you guys. I'm just hitting ~850 miles on my bike and I noticed the last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt. The second attempt will engage but not the first. It will downshift fine, just won't shift from 2nd to 3rd on the first try. Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I am scheduled to have the bike serviced soon and was going to mention it to the service tech but figured I'd ask you guys, too.
Have you changed the oil yet? Is the clutch cable adjusted properly? Is the shifter lever contacting anything when you shift?
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #76352
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:00 PM   #76353
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Looks great! I was thinking about going with these bags, too. I have the Wolfman Explorer Lite tank bag and have been very happy with it.

A question for you guys. I'm just hitting ~850 miles on my bike and I noticed the last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt. The second attempt will engage but not the first. It will downshift fine, just won't shift from 2nd to 3rd on the first try. Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I am scheduled to have the bike serviced soon and was going to mention it to the service tech but figured I'd ask you guys, too.
I would install a magnetic drain plug, you may find it picks up something. Just a guess, but might not be nothing at all.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:26 PM   #76354
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...last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt...
I know it's new but has it been dropped on the left side?
A left side tip over can jam the shift mechanism and bend a shift fork.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:34 PM   #76355
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Looks great! I was thinking about going with these bags, too. I have the Wolfman Explorer Lite tank bag and have been very happy with it.

A question for you guys. I'm just hitting ~850 miles on my bike and I noticed the last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt. The second attempt will engage but not the first. It will downshift fine, just won't shift from 2nd to 3rd on the first try. Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I am scheduled to have the bike serviced soon and was going to mention it to the service tech but figured I'd ask you guys, too.
could be a bent shift fork. does it ever pop out of gear under load?
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:52 PM   #76356
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probably just preaching to the converted, but just in case you needed convincing....

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Old 05-05-2013, 07:30 AM   #76357
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:38 AM   #76358
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3 separate compartments or 1 big bag? Luggage investigations

Expedition riders,

Any preferences between Giant Loop versus Wolfman versus Hard-Case-Options ?
I require them to be 100% waterproof. I require them to store food, camping stuff and a laptop computer. Enough 'stuff' to survive camping out for, say, 7 days.
In theory, I see an advantage in 3 separate compartments because one might be able to distribute the load more evenly, especially with a top case which can carry the hard stuff, and the side panniers can carry the more soft, lighter stuff.
The Giant Loop has the advantage of being one unit, hugs the bike, but I'm concerned that if I buy a Giant Loop distributing the load might 'get to me'. Am I wrong in thinking that one big bag could present more problems than cures?
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:23 AM   #76359
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Expedition riders,

Any preferences between Giant Loop versus Wolfman versus Hard-Case-Options ?
I require them to be 100% waterproof. I require them to store food, camping stuff and a laptop computer. Enough 'stuff' to survive camping out for, say, 7 days.
In theory, I see an advantage in 3 separate compartments because one might be able to distribute the load more evenly, especially with a top case which can carry the hard stuff, and the side panniers can carry the more soft, lighter stuff.
The Giant Loop has the advantage of being one unit, hugs the bike, but I'm concerned that if I buy a Giant Loop distributing the load might 'get to me'. Am I wrong in thinking that one big bag could present more problems than cures?
Camping gear can get wet so I like to have at least two pieces of luggage. Put a wet tent in with a dry item and soon you will have two wet items. Learned this from HelenTwoWheels.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:05 AM   #76360
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Thanks for your replies, everyone. The bike was dropped once in the mud on the left side over a month ago. Very low speed with no damage but, I will certainly check the shift lever.

The oil has not been changed yet as I was waiting for my first service. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that shift characteristics can change when the oil needs changed.

I rode the DR to work this morning again and haven't had a single missed shift into 3rd. I'll report back after changing the oil and having the bike serviced. Thanks again, guys.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:23 AM   #76361
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Cool2 Great video!

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probably just preaching to the converted, but just in case you needed convincing....
Thanks for the laughs mate!
Well done video

How about a comparison video shoot-out?
DR vs. KLR
DR vs. KTM
DR vs. BMW

Would be great fun to make, and to watch
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:49 AM   #76362
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82,000 miles condensed into 10 minutes. Very nice. I feel like such a schlub when I see things like this. "I rode Arizona....or Utah..." Whoopee.

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Old 05-05-2013, 11:40 AM   #76363
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Thanks for your replies, everyone. The bike was dropped once in the mud on the left side over a month ago. Very low speed with no damage but, I will certainly check the shift lever.

The oil has not been changed yet as I was waiting for my first service. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that shift characteristics can change when the oil needs changed.

I rode the DR to work this morning again and haven't had a single missed shift into 3rd. I'll report back after changing the oil and having the bike serviced. Thanks again, guys.
A common problem I've seen happens when the shift lever is bent IN a bit.
This can make it hard to shift as lever bumps into engine case.

Simple fix. Pull out lever a bit.

One guy could not shift the bike at all. He figured the Trans was blown up.
He was ready to start parting out the bike!!! I took a quick look, pulled out the lever ... all good.

The shift forks could be bent but unlikely. Many have crashed the DR on the left without messing up shift forks. It DOES happen ... but I don't think its that common.

So CHECK THAT SHIFT LEVER! Also, make sure it's not wobbly on there.
Tighten up bolt. Good luck!
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:01 PM   #76364
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Expedition riders,

Any preferences between Giant Loop versus Wolfman versus Hard-Case-Options ?
I require them to be 100% waterproof. I require them to store food, camping stuff and a laptop computer. Enough 'stuff' to survive camping out for, say, 7 days.
In theory, I see an advantage in 3 separate compartments because one might be able to distribute the load more evenly, especially with a top case which can carry the hard stuff, and the side panniers can carry the more soft, lighter stuff.
The Giant Loop has the advantage of being one unit, hugs the bike, but I'm concerned that if I buy a Giant Loop distributing the load might 'get to me'. Am I wrong in thinking that one big bag could present more problems than cures?
This is how it's done:
(photos borrowed from Colebatch's RR, see link below)


Check out Colebatch's ride report here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834987

If your covering long distance over rough terrain ... Colebatch's system works pretty well for most bikes. He's riding an X Challenge and his buddies on KTM 690's. The DR is a better cargo carrier than BOTH of those bikes.

I prefer panniers, low hung and forward. Top bag of some kind.
7 days is a shake down ride. A real "expedition" may go a bit longer.

I've tried hard cases on my DR:

Baja around 2007. Too much weight at round 45 kgs. messes up handling off road.

Went back to soft panniers and top bag. Much preferred

25 kgs.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:37 PM   #76365
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Those Twaron/Kevlar A-Spec Magadan saddlebags that Colebatch uses are sweet. They're also a bit expensive, and they seem like you'd want the sideracks to extend a bit lower than needed with some other bags...to keep them away from the wheel or swing-arm. They keep the weight far down on the bike though.

If you don't need that much space, the Wolfman Expedition saddlebags and racks keep everything tight to the bike. Look how the weight of the loaded bags is supported by the straps too, and not the fabric or stitching. Some people use stiffeners inside them for easy loading and to keep them from being floppy when not full. I'd use PacSafe mesh around soft luggage like this if security is a concern.

Internal drybags or stuffsacks in the saddlebags and topbag can also be handy. Some people even use drybags in the tankbag, tank panniers, etc.

I try for weight distribution when packing too. We ride 2up a lot, so we sometimes carry a lot more stuff than I would solo. I use a large front fenderpack (freakin' huge Moose dualsport on a brace), large tank panniers, medium tankbag, above-headlight rack, tooltube, soft panniers, Givi hard topcase, and pockets. I pack mostly just weather-proof soft items in pockets of mesh riding gear...rain liners, balaclavas, hydration bladders, etc. I try to pack heavy items on the bike low. The DR actually still rides pretty good. I don't currently use sideracks. I just use an extra aluminum shield, stood off over the muff, and the saddlebag on the left rests against my tooltube. My tailrack is the Suzuki accessories rack with a Givi plate on it.

If you use a SPOT, keep it on YOU. Putting it on the bike is almost useless in an emergency, IMO, if you and the bike get separated and can't be reunited.

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