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Old 05-06-2013, 04:22 PM   #1
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Cedar City Utah to Tonopah, Nv

Looks like there are two routes
Via Caliente on Ut56 then NV318 to 93

or

via Mesquite to Nv 168 to 93

is either more interesting or better road surface?

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Old 05-06-2013, 04:38 PM   #2
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Looks like there are two routes
Via Caliente on Ut56 then NV318 to 93

or

via Mesquite to Nv 168 to 93

is either more interesting or better road surface?

Thanks




One route is a little more interesting that the other. I can recommend the pie!

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Old 05-07-2013, 03:22 AM   #3
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Thanks, Catfish. That's in Rachel which I would hit on either route. I'm talking about before( east ) of Rachel
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:17 AM   #4
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Thanks, Catfish. That's in Rachel which I would hit on either route. I'm talking about before( east ) of Rachel

OOPS, should have looked at the map 1st.

Caliente keeps you off the freeway, so that's the way I usually go.

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Old 05-07-2013, 02:33 PM   #5
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I'm sure it's 319 in Nevada.

You could take 56 east then after Newcastle 18 south to Enterprise. Not many people go that way through the Dixie National Forest. I'd stay on 18 through Central but at Veyo head for Gunlock. (Gunlock State Park). On to Shivwits.....stay south and dip in to Arizona.....pick up the 15 south to Mesquite then back north up to the Extraterrestial (375) and you'll be the first in your gang to do that loop.

For added bonus points you could take the 169 loop after Mesquite through Valley of Fire State Park past Logan and Overton, you are so close why not?, and the added bonus points will look grand on your resume. I'm pretty certain Arizona gets you one or two bonus points alone.

318 is pretty cool but it's an odd way. I was born and raised in Preston, Lancashire, England UK....so 318 to Preston was a must do for me. If you do go up there Ely is kinda cool in a Nevada sort of way.

Ask in Shivwits about road surface, they may send you east to the 15
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:39 PM   #6
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Yeah, there are few routes you can choose from. There MIGHT have been a couple of "little rides" that have passed over this territory in the past couple of years.

I might suggest marking you map with gas stops and then linking those spots together to match you range. Google earth will give you lots of off-asphalt options if you can handle the remoteness.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:57 AM   #7
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caliente route is nice if you have time for a couple stops and quick detours.

cathedral gorge is neat to see.
pahranagat wildlife area is cool.

a neat camping spot is right where the 318 and 375 split, its a rest area with a couple big trees and picnic table.
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:42 AM   #8
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Looks like there are two routes
Via Caliente on Ut56 then NV318 to 93

or

via Mesquite to Nv 168 to 93

is either more interesting or better road surface?

Thanks
Through Caliente is way shorter, and the road surface is fine. It's Nevada.. not a lot to see out there. Lots of straight roads after you leave Caliente. It's a long way from Caliente to Tonopah, about 190 miles. There's no commercial gas in Rachel. If you can't make that (don't push it..strong winds come up out there and can drop your mileage), consider riding the 12 miles or so down to Alamo on Hwy 93 to top off. That will give you an extra 30 or so miles of 'cushion'. Or take an extra gallon with you from Caliente.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:14 PM   #9
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If you do go through Caliente keep the speed down in the area. Every time I've been through there I've picked up a patrol car about a mile outside of town and they've followed me for about a mile on the other side. Seems like a nice little town and I'd like to stop some day but so far I haven't felt too welcome.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:07 PM   #10
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If you are up for an adventure, just after Caliente, hang a right into the Silver State Trails, follow as far as you can until you pop out on the highway, a short cut of sorts. Last time I rode from Caliente to Tonopah, on the FZ1, didn't drop below 100 mph, for a couple hours. Felt like I was flying a plane, lol. But be warned, lot's of free range cattle...
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:25 PM   #11
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Good replies all! Thanks.

I am crossing Nv down there to get to Ca near Yosemite and from there to head north.

I kind want to say I've been around Area 51. I will carry about 1.5 gallons of gas with me, but all the advice re winds and mileage and paucity of stations is well-taken. !2mi to Alamo is probably a worthwhile detour. !90 miles is close to the limit of my tank when completely full, esp if headwinds and speed.

I thought Cathedral Gorge looked interesting and that's what drew me to crossing via Cedar City--or from St George up 18 the across-- rather than 15 down to 168.
I am going to be on a BMW roadster--600+# loaded-- so I really prefer pavement, but some hard packed graded mud/gravel is ok in a pinch. Point is, the area is of interest to me, but there is a lot farther to travel on this ride. Lots farther. There will not be a lot of time for exploring in this area.

So, to distill my question down a little more: which is the neater ride? The Caliente route or the Mesquite route in your view?

Thanks again, excellent help.

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Old 05-09-2013, 05:38 PM   #12
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If you are up for an adventure, just after Caliente, hang a right into the Silver State Trails, follow as far as you can until you pop out on the highway, a short cut of sorts.
I'm looking at google and I see a road that goes off to the right after Caliente, looks like packed gravel, but it is not labeled. It eventually hooks up with Klondike road whch links back up to 93.
Where Klondike links it looks like dual track. Am I looking at the right roads?

I will prob not be up for that adventure if I am looking at the right roads.
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I'd go Caliente only because it is less freeway and less miles.

They are both equal to me other than that.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:55 AM   #14
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Done!, thanks

Finally shaping up, more or less firm.
Leaving Monday 5/13 and I hope the roadster is reliable. You do EVERYTHING you can to prepare and at some point just have to cross your fingers. Carrying gas because in addition to the scarcity of gas stations, my fuel gauge could be flakey--have the fuel strip that has plagued so many BMWs over the years. Yes. I'm using the odometer.

Thanks again, very much appreciated.

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Old 05-10-2013, 07:43 AM   #15
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Out in the desert, you can never have too much fuel-----unless you're on fire.
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