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Old 05-09-2013, 09:27 PM   #676
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Not if you are comfortable with the possibility of a failure on your long dualsport ride.

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My TE 510 has 2300 miles on it and I,ve noticed broken O-rings on my garage floor . The chain has,nt streched much and does,nt seem wore out. I,ve got a long dual sport trip coming up , should I replace it?
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:29 AM   #677
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Do I need to repack my muffler? How often?

7500 miles now, and I'm noticing a lack of power, especially up top...and it seems louder with just the spark arrester than before. I normally run the DB reducer insert, but it just doesn't have the grunt it used to...not a heck of a lot better with the spark arrester.
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:45 AM   #678
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Do I need to repack my muffler? How often?

7500 miles now, and I'm noticing a lack of power, especially up top...and it seems louder with just the spark arrester than before. I normally run the DB reducer insert, but it just doesn't have the grunt it used to...not a heck of a lot better with the spark arrester.
Are you running the short insert or the longer Euro insert?

I recently re-packed my Arrow can, and now, after all that work, I wish I had not re-packed it. You have to cut out a stainless steel inner piece that is really the muffler itself, which turns the aluminum outer cover into the new muffler body structure. After re-packing, it was no quieter than before and with complaints from my road mates, I purchased a Euro dBkiller for $65 and man, what a difference, more low end grunt and much quieter, wish I would have done the dBkiller instead of repacking.



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Old 05-16-2013, 05:50 AM   #679
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That's the insert I usually run.

So they use packing material...but don't actually make allowances in the construction to repack/rebuild it?
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:13 AM   #680
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Hey Jake, how does the insert db killer install?

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I purchased a Euro dBkiller for $65 and man, what a difference, more low end grunt and much quieter, wish I would have done the dBkiller instead of repacking.



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Old 05-16-2013, 10:08 AM   #681
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Hey Jake, how does the insert db killer install?
Funny guy, you just stick it in, (spark arrastor has to come out first).

I screwed my muffler up so much by cutting the internal stainless body out if it, that the end cap was not longer square enougfht for the dBkiller to fit flush with the snap ring groove, I had to grind down the flange area of the dBkiller so that I could get the snap ring into its groove.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:10 AM   #682
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That's the insert I usually run.

So they use packing material...but don't actually make allowances in the construction to repack/rebuild it?
Correct, I used a metal cutting blade in a circular saw, set the depth to where it would just cut thru the stainless housing.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:18 AM   #683
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Do I need to repack my muffler? How often?

7500 miles now, and I'm noticing a lack of power, especially up top...and it seems louder with just the spark arrester than before. I normally run the DB reducer insert, but it just doesn't have the grunt it used to...not a heck of a lot better with the spark arrester.
Since you are running the Euro dBkiller and the bike seems louder, then yeah, you are gonna have to either cut the Arrow up and repack, or buy something new.

Cutting the stainless body out was not that big a deal, and packing it back up and putting it back in the aliminum housing wasn't the easiest thing, but I got it done and pop-riveted back together, and it's really quiet now AND seems to have a little more low end punch.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:20 AM   #684
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Ok guys- where is the link for db killer insert?
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:45 PM   #685
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ok guys- where is the link for db killer insert?
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:40 PM   #686
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:05 PM   #687
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Loving the 510. Put about 400 miles on it now. Mostly in 1 hour-2 track excursions. Rode about 50 miles of street today just to see how it did.....


-Is it truly "bad" to cruise at 65mph/ 6600rpm for 20-45min? Or 2 hours?
-Is it really worse than super high revving, over and over, and banging gears for the same about of time on a trail?
-Is cursing at 55mph/ 5500 rpm much better?





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Old 05-21-2013, 07:12 PM   #688
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Well, *I* don't think it's bad. I cruise at that speed/RPM all the time. It's well within the design limits. I can't comment on the super high revving though as most of my trail riding RPM is below 5,000 RPM. Of course, in the end, the longer the engine sees high RPM, the sooner it will wear. How much fun do you want to have!
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Loving the 510. Put about 400 miles on it now. Mostly in 1 hour-2 track excursions. Rode about 50 miles of street today just to see how it did.....


-Is it truly "bad" to cruise at 65mph/ 6600rpm for 20-45min? Or 2 hours?
-Is it really worse than super high revving, over and over, and banging gears for the same about of time on a trail?
-Is cursing at 55mph/ 5500 rpm much better?
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:12 PM   #689
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Anyone else had the valve cover bolts strip the threads in the cam caps. I had and oil leak at the front of the valve cover dripping onto the exhaust covering everyone in smoke when i pulled up. Checked the valve cover bolts to find one loose that i could turn by hand and the other was tight but pulled out a couple of threads when i removed the cover. Cant get new cam caps, have to buy a complete head, so will stick some helicoils in and hopefully solve the issue.


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Old 05-21-2013, 07:32 PM   #690
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Well, *I* don't think it's bad. I cruise at that speed/RPM all the time. It's well within the design limits. I can't comment on the super high revving though as most of my trail riding RPM is below 5,000 RPM. Of course, in the end, the longer the engine sees high RPM, the sooner it will wear. How much fun do you want to have!
Cool. Thanks.

My TE310 was at 7000rpm at 55mph with a 50 tooth rear and I felt like it was going to explode at any second. The 510 still feels... Comfortable?? at 6000-6500rpm. Wasn't sure what was recommended by the engineers.


Oh, does every bodies 510 EAT rear tires? my XR doesn't do it like this
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