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Old 05-10-2013, 12:57 PM   #20896
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:00 AM   #20897
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And a Piaggio convention, too:




Weird, but supposedly corner very well...

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Old 05-11-2013, 08:43 AM   #20898
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And a Piaggio convention, too:





Weird, but supposedly corner very well...

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OK, I think they're a bit more than I'd want to spend on one, but they're definitely different and I like that

What I'd like to know is do you have to countersteer to turn them or do you steer like you would on a sidecar rig or a trike? I figure it would be regular steering, but maybe the manufacturer did something weird.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:56 AM   #20899
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OK, I think they're a bit more than I'd want to spend on one, but they're definitely different and I like that

What I'd like to know is do you have to countersteer to turn them or do you steer like you would on a sidecar rig or a trike? I figure it would be regular steering, but maybe the manufacturer did something weird.

Good question! Looking at how far they are actually leaning over in the corners, my quess would be that countersteering is still being used.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:18 AM   #20900
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:22 AM   #20901
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Yes, countersteering is required. The front seems incredibly well planted but the overall experience is just like a two wheeler.

My favorite bit about riding one around town was the trick of being able to lock the front suspension as you come to a stop, then it unlocks itself as you accelerate away - so you never need to put your feet down.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:35 AM   #20902
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lock the front suspension as you come to a stop, then it unlocks itself as you accelerate away - so you never need to put your feet down.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:59 AM   #20903
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Yes, countersteering is required. The front seems incredibly well planted but the overall experience is just like a two wheeler.

My favorite bit about riding one around town was the trick of being able to lock the front suspension as you come to a stop, then it unlocks itself as you accelerate away - so you never need to put your feet down.
Those just got about 1000% more attractive to me - thanks
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:15 AM   #20904
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OK, I think they're a bit more than I'd want to spend on one, but they're definitely different and I like that

What I'd like to know is do you have to countersteer to turn them or do you steer like you would on a sidecar rig or a trike? I figure it would be regular steering, but maybe the manufacturer did something weird.
I've got one. You countersteer normally. There's a very slightly different "feel" (you've got two wheels up there responding) but other than that, it's absolutely instinctive. It's got a very planted feel to it. Neat bike.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:50 AM   #20905
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There is one being worked on at the Local Bike Shop (sone of a friend, low budget project). I'm inclined to crawl up under it and figure out how that front suspension works. I understand some sort of parallelogram linkage, but Capt'n, ah needs to ken the details...

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Old 05-11-2013, 12:21 PM   #20906
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There is one being worked on at the Local Bike Shop (sone of a friend, low budget project). I'm inclined to crawl up under it and figure out how that front suspension works. I understand some sort of parallelogram linkage, but Capt'n, ah needs to ken the details...

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I would imagine with the way the inside wheel moves back towards the rider that they are pretty stable cornering. Instead of human sliding forward to weight the front tire, the front tire moves to human....
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:21 AM   #20907
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:25 AM   #20908
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:41 AM   #20909
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Well, in a sense, he had a top box, and it fell off.
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:46 AM   #20910
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Well, in a sense, he had a top box, and it fell off.
You! I see what you did there!
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