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Old 05-15-2013, 08:39 AM   #5026
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The factory replacement centerstand with added gusset was handled properly by Tony @ Empire Cycle in Spokane.

I was thinking that I'd add a bit of protection.

Thoughts?


I was thinking about some little welds to hold it in place...
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:55 AM   #5027
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The factory replacement centerstand with added gusset was handled properly by Tony @ Empire Cycle in Spokane.

I was thinking that I'd add a bit of protection.

Thoughts?


I was thinking about some little welds to hold it in place...
If you want it because you think it looks good, go for it. I think it's way overkill, especially when people are complaining about the weak centerstand spring.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:10 AM   #5028
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My biggest concern was protection of the 02 sensors and associated
wiring...

Looks cool? Hell, it will disappear when it's installed.

henerythe8th screwed with this post 05-15-2013 at 11:25 AM
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:14 AM   #5029
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Battery cables

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There are two ground connections near the starter and both are suspect. One is direct to the battery and I think the other is to the ECU.

here you can see one above the starter and one below. The lower one goes to the battery. Remember that the - side of the battery is on the right so that ground cable is going from high right side of the bike to low left, it's a fairly long run and the cable is not very thick. Add to that the fact that the stud is only 6mm. Not a great situation.

A solution is to move both grounds to better connections. Here's a photo of the new battery ground.

I am using a bolt that secures the transmission to the block, on the right side of the engine. Not only is it a larger bolt, it's much easier to check for corrosion.

For the other ground (ECU?) I moved that to one of the starter bolts.

Once again, larger bolt and easier to see.

To upgrade the ground and starter wires I had new ones made up by http://www.motolectric.com/products/hicap.detail.html.
The new wires are made with very fine stranded copper that is much more flexible and of a larger diameter than OEM. Since the ground connection serves the entire system it should have a small benefit to everything electrical...heck, it can't hurt!

Peter Y.
Thank you for that information Peter.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:48 PM   #5030
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My biggest concern was protection of the 02 sensors and associated
wiring...

Looks cool? Hell, it will disappear when it's installed.
I heard ofe complains about the weak center stand spring, but not of anyone damaging the o2 sensors or their wiring due to the lack of such a piece of protection.
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:25 PM   #5031
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There are two ground connections near the starter and both are suspect. One is direct to the battery and I think the other is to the ECU.

here you can see one above the starter and one below. The lower one goes to the battery. Remember that the - side of the battery is on the right so that ground cable is going from high right side of the bike to low left, it's a fairly long run and the cable is not very thick. Add to that the fact that the stud is only 6mm. Not a great situation.

A solution is to move both grounds to better connections. Here's a photo of the new battery ground.

I am using a bolt that secures the transmission to the block, on the right side of the engine. Not only is it a larger bolt, it's much easier to check for corrosion.

For the other ground (ECU?) I moved that to one of the starter bolts.

Once again, larger bolt and easier to see.

To upgrade the ground and starter wires I had new ones made up by http://www.motolectric.com/products/hicap.detail.html.
The new wires are made with very fine stranded copper that is much more flexible and of a larger diameter than OEM. Since the ground connection serves the entire system it should have a small benefit to everything electrical...heck, it can't hurt!

Peter Y.
Question Peter,

Did you have to drill out the cable lug or is the hole size large enough to use on the larger bolts?
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:49 PM   #5032
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RE drilling out the ECU ground lug...I can't remember. It seems to me that the OEM stud was 6mm and the one I went to was 8mm so if I did have to drill it out it wasn't a big deal. Remember, we are talking about copper.

One point I failed to make, these studs are doing double duty. On the male end they are securing the ground and on the female end they are the attachment point for the starter cover. It seems to me that every time you take the starter cover off you are inviting problems with the ground. If I'm wrong, it ain't the first time.

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Old 05-15-2013, 06:05 PM   #5033
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-the back of the screen reflects the dashboard and it's a pretty bright reflection at night (since the screen is tinted quite dark)
I had the same problem with a Maier Cyclone screen I rigged on my former 950SE. I didn't need to be able to look through it, so I sprayed the back side with satin black Krylon Fusion. Cured the problem.

Pardon the pics of a different species, but they might help.

From the cockpit:



From the front:



I liked the opaque look.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:30 PM   #5034
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I had the same problem with a Maier Cyclone screen I rigged on my former 950SE. I didn't need to be able to look through it, so I sprayed the back side with satin black Krylon Fusion. Cured the problem.

Pardon the pics of a different species, but they might help.

From the front:



I liked the opaque look.
No worries, I've always like the 950SE. I think a 750SE could rock my world.

The screen looks very good on that bike, makes me think of what a Street Triple R needs.

I had a smoked screen on my BMW R100RS but the instruments were some distance from the screen so no reflection problems.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:41 AM   #5035
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Since this is my first Guzzi I'm still trying to understands what's "normal".

I get a very noticeable oscillating high frequency vibration around an indicated 76-78 mph. It really stands out and I can feel it in the seat and footpegs. It gives the impression of a driveline vibration but if I pull in the clutch it changes so it's not purely driveline.

It may be common to Guzzis and quite normal, I'm not sure. I didn't get to do long enough test rides to pick up "what's normal" or "common".

I haven't mounted up my GPS yet so I'm not certain what the speedo error is. I "think" it's about 2-3 mph high.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:44 AM   #5036
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Click and drag

bloody hell how cool is that
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:06 AM   #5037
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Since this is my first Guzzi I'm still trying to understands what's "normal".

I get a very noticeable oscillating high frequency vibration around an indicated 76-78 mph. It really stands out and I can feel it in the seat and footpegs. It gives the impression of a driveline vibration but if I pull in the clutch it changes so it's not purely driveline.

It may be common to Guzzis and quite normal, I'm not sure. I didn't get to do long enough test rides to pick up "what's normal" or "common".

I haven't mounted up my GPS yet so I'm not certain what the speedo error is. I "think" it's about 2-3 mph high.
Check your engine mount bolts under the tank. Mine were loose.

Speedo error on mine is ~4% (reads high, of course).
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:41 AM   #5038
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Check your engine mount bolts under the tank. Mine were loose.

Speedo error on mine is ~4% (reads high, of course).
Thanks. Some loose bolts could make sense. I don't remember feeling it initially.

I need to do a thorough going over to check for loose bolts etc. I'd like to pull the tank just to see how things look under there.

I just realized last night the fuel tank is plastic, very cool.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:44 AM   #5039
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Anyone here seen or heard of a failed centerstand?

I ruined mine this morning just attempting to put the bike up on it!
The left leg bent inward around 15 degrees just below the cross bar!
Mine broke off there ages ago. Hope the updated version lasts longer.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:54 AM   #5040
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Mine broke off there ages ago. Hope the updated version lasts longer.
This is how the updated version looks on my 2013. I think it was updated in 2012, not sure when.


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