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Old 05-16-2013, 09:44 AM   #991
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Nope and probably won't.... when I started it this morning it had been rolling around in 2nd or third because I had to get it to neutral to start.

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Old 05-16-2013, 02:38 PM   #992
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It started?

Wow.

Then its worth pulling apart to check.
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:06 PM   #993
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It started?

Wow.

Then its worth pulling apart to check.
That's what I was thinking! DON'T run it anymore! ... just open it up and get to work! Probably not much damage. Worth fixing, IMO.

You may have dodged a bullet ... maybe just a flesh wound on this one?

Good luck!
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:13 PM   #994
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Not so much LC4 loyalty, more people sick of you spreading lies and misconceptions about non Jap bikes.

There are a hell of a lot of KTM owners who have never had a problem with them, and most if not all have had there share of jap bikes before going Euro.

How many KTMs or Huskys have you owned?

The DR is a good bike for the price, but it does have problems just like every other bike, your failure admit that,and your little story's that you like to make up prove your ignorance and nothing else.

Now back to the third gear failures...
So,how come there are all those "My Lc4 makes a funny noise" threads,or just plain explosion stories about the silly things? It does seem like more Lc4's scatter their gizzards then most bikes.

But a DR is in no way a comparison to a good Lc4,DR is a wide glide tank while an Lc4 is a strong thumping good handling euro bike that runs well and is pretty good right out of the box.
They do seem to have more then their share of problems staying together at times though.
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Its good to see the 3rd gear failure thread is still going strong,I just beat my DR hard for 700 miles of backroads and dirt to the coast and back and it ran great as always,not a funny noise to be heard,like about 99% of all DR's on the road.

Keep it up though.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:48 PM   #995
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So,how come there are all those "My Lc4 makes a funny noise" threads,or just plain explosion stories about the silly things? It does seem like more Lc4's scatter their gizzards then most bikes.

But a DR is in no way a comparison to a good Lc4,DR is a wide glide tank while an Lc4 is a strong thumping good handling euro bike that runs well and is pretty good right out of the box.
They do seem to have more then their share of problems staying together at times though.
Most LC4 owners will tell you there bikes have been nothing but reliable with routine maintenance.

A vast majority of the threads about LC4 problems have been caused my incompetent people working on them or stupid mistakes by the owners.

My comment was directed at one person who continually sticks his nose into threads about bikes he knows nothing about and spreads crap about them.

Bottom line is that the LC4 is way more reliable than the internet myth that people like ADVtroll are spreading...
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:46 AM   #996
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So,how come there are all those "My Lc4 makes a funny noise" threads
Because they all sound like that. It's not a sign of impending doom

tHEtREV is on the money. All that extra performance is due to attention to design and less unnecessary fat everywhere. That alone makes them less tolerant of neglect than other brands. Every part is engineered to do its job/s and no more, unlike other brands which are crudely over-engineered because it's cheap and/or easy. You probably see more calls for help on the internet due to the rarity of the bikes: people often can't just go in to a nearby dealer who's had experience with them.

Sure, there's a couple of easily fixed issues, just like the KLR's doohickey and the DR's ignition pickup mount (or whatever it is), and so what? Before I bought mine I did my research, and quickly found so many examples of supposedly stone-reliable jappers imploding I figured it was a lottery anyway, at least I may as well ride a bike I like until it happens!

In our "local" circle of riders, coupla dozen, we've had several DR650 3rd gear blowups, one 640 top-end failure (and he's gone on to own two more KTM RFS bikes) and a couple of KLR oil-burners. We don't give a shit about the badge on the bike, we just enjoy the good times together. Because like the Hokey Pokey, that's what it's all about
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:59 AM   #997
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here's a DR650 on flea with a dead tranny
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:44 AM   #998
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Most LC4 owners will tell you there bikes have been nothing but reliable with routine maintenance.

A vast majority of the threads about LC4 problems have been caused my incompetent people working on them or stupid mistakes by the owners.

My comment was directed at one person who continually sticks his nose into threads about bikes he knows nothing about and spreads crap about them.

Bottom line is that the LC4 is way more reliable than the internet myth that people like ADVtroll are spreading...
I here you,Ive had about 14 KTM's since 1978 and liked em all a lot,from 200's to a 620SC that flat ripped and was plated. Ive got a 2011 530 now and it amazes me every time I ride it.
Pulls 90mph uphill in sand with more in reserve and the suspension is hands down the best stock suspension Ive tried.

My DR is for just going somewhere and not worrying about putting miles on it or riding like my inner hooligan says I should,if it scatters I can find another engine, but it probably wont scatter.

Im hoping this 530 is one of those that runs for 3 or 4 hundred hours with not much issue,its so much fun I'll just fix it if it needs fixing though.
I figure a good handling well suspended bike saves me time spent in hospital,no kidding.

New 690's are nice though.
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Old 05-17-2013, 10:53 AM   #999
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Rear wheel locked up..........

Nothing to see here.. move along.

Absolutely no excuse for this as more than a fluke. 1 in 1000 or 1 in 500 isn't good enough.
hey man, welcome back! How was your AK/Cross country trip? Did you end up going? Still on the road? And what bike did you end up taking? If you have a ride report/Pics, can you post the link?
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:52 PM   #1000
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My DR is for just going somewhere and not worrying about putting miles on it or riding like my inner hooligan says I should,if it scatters I can find another engine, but it probably wont scatter.
And thats why I like my LC4, I can put miles on, act like a hooligan and not worry about it scattering its internals all over the road.

But they are not for everyone, they have there traits that some people can't live with.

I hope it didn't sound like I was knocking the DR, because I'm not.

Looking at that list it says Philth has blown three gearboxes.

He is a hard man on bikes and rides big distances over the most isolated spots in Australia.

But his last DR got retired after some massive runs and he has just taken delivery of another DR.

So if someone who has blown three gearboxes thinks that the DR is still the bike of choice, there must be a bit OK, and the 3rd gear "problem" must not be to concerning.

I know DRjoe also bought another DR after his blowup, and probably a lot of others.

And I have said before, I wouldn't worry about the 3rd gear if I was in the market for a bike like the DR, the internet makes everything sound worse than it is.

In fact it can be so good at making things sound worse than they are, there are some people out there who think the LC4's scatter there gizzards on a regular basis because of things written on the net.
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:00 AM   #1001
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I put 1400 hard miles on my 07 DR650 this week on a camping trip. Still good and reliable. I run with a heavy load at a brisk pace using the most crooked route available. The front tire needs changing though... Stupid bike hasn't blown up yet so I can't justify getting another one yet.
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Old 05-18-2013, 02:12 PM   #1002
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hey man, welcome back! How was your AK/Cross country trip? Did you end up going? Still on the road? And what bike did you end up taking? If you have a ride report/Pics, can you post the link?
I'm posting this from Idaho. I took a Dr650 because its the bike I have. I still worry about the gearbox every day. Hasn't given me a problem yet, and the closer I get to Alaska the better I figure my odds are that I'll make it there and around there. If it blows after that I'll be pissed, but at least i saw alaska. Its been a blast. Before you ask, I've changed the oil myself using full synthetic Suzuki oil under 1000 miles every time. I'm running lower gearing and I'm only carrying 50 pounds of crap. I love the bike... so long as it keeps running. I figure all I've done will help lessen the odds as nearly all the bike planning has been based on being easy to the gearbox. It shouldn't have to be that way- if I had a WR I wouldnt have to worry, but then I couldn't do 70 uphill in a headwind at 4k feet either.

I am struggling with a RR. I've been writing one but not posting. I don't think I have much to offer that others haven't already shared. Snowrider for instance. I'm no great writer or photographer.

Somehow, perhaps being cynical, I feel the only reason you asked was to point out implicitly that I'm going cross country on a DR, or to imply I'm all talk if I wasn't going. Sorry if that's too cynical, but I'm used to being attacked on what I feel is a fanboy excuse thread instead of a "Suzuki fix your shit you cheap bastards" thread.
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Old 05-18-2013, 03:52 PM   #1003
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GSF, I'd like to read your RR. I'm no great writer or photographer either so I'm sure I'll be able to understand your words and pics.
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:38 PM   #1004
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Somehow, perhaps being cynical, I feel the only reason you asked was to point out implicitly that I'm going cross country on a DR, or to imply I'm all talk if I wasn't going. Sorry if that's too cynical, but I'm used to being attacked on what I feel is a fanboy excuse thread instead of a "Suzuki fix your shit you cheap bastards" thread.
I feel you've overreacted to the 3rd gear issue ... but you're not alone. You can believe what you want ... free country. But just don't forget the FACTS and the HISTORY.

I don't care what reactionary imaginings you chose to believe ...

but I do care about you ... and wish you a Safe and Fun trip. I hate it when fellow riders get hurt ... or worse. Getting out there doing cross country is an awesome challenge ....Big Kudos! ... and we don't need no stinkin' ride report to give you big ups for getting out there and doin' it.


BTW, I've never done a Ride Report on ADV Rider Even though I'm a professional moto writer ... and get paid for every article I've ever written .. for 20 years. ADV doesn't pay much ... so why bother? You're right, AK has been covered 9 ways to Sunday. Hard to top the hundreds of well written, innovative reports already here.

What will you do when your DR650 gets past 50,000 miles and ... still ... that pesky gear box hasn't bombed out?
You could always toss a few nuts and bolts into the oil to be "right" ... and make your premonition come true. Boy, now that would really convince Suzuki to step up and fix the problem!

Rubber Side Down! ... and may the Gear Box Gremlins stay in Australia!
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:24 AM   #1005
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2005 DR650, 12000 miles, rode hard but not put away wet -

I was at the end of a 200 mile trip from home to Bryson City, NC. The last 50 miles were at speeds ~60mph. As I took the ramp off Exit 67, Highway 74. I herd a loud crunch (or crack) and lost power - the motor was still running. I tried the gearshift but it seemed to be locked up. I coasted the 1/2 mile down to the hill to the gas station at Highway 19. When I got off the bike I found a broken chain and the transmission seemed to be locked. I removed sprocket cover and was able to get the sprocket to turn and the gear shifter to work. A friend (thanks Big Don) brought me a chain, and I tried to ride the bike. It cranked OK, went into first gear, then the trans locked as I tried to pull away. I gracefully stepped off the bike as it tipped over in the parking lot. After that, the bike would not start and the starter would not turn. While rolling the bike around the lot, I discovered that there was no 5th gear. Bike is home now waiting for some wrench love. I am going to read through this thread some more to try an learn from the experience of others. I am inclined to try and do the rebuild myself. I would appreciate some advice about finding the best parts. I would also like to hear what others have spent on the repair.











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