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Old 05-16-2013, 03:21 PM   #16
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Jemez and Single Track are no longer synonymous or belong in the same thread title.
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:37 PM   #17
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What did you take up Bland? Dirt bike or ATV? I've seen pics and it looks completely destroyed.

I used to spend a lot of time in Bland Canyon and at the ghost town of Bland. Huge loss of historic buildings and artifacts there. Very sad.
Feets. There's a cement baricade and a fence back at the pavment/dirt juncture that only the landowners have a access to.

Both could probably make it up there but not without some serious work to get pass the deep washouts. One cement bridge has washed out on both sides and it had a 20' drop off of the downhill side. That whole canyon acts as a funnel for all the moisture.

I agree, I first learned to ride in the mountains in the canyon behind Dixon's, and spent many memorable trips up in that area 4-wheeling, camping, Mt. biking, and hiking. It was one of my favorite places, and no better place to escape the heat of summer splashing through the streams on singletrack.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:05 PM   #18
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Feets. There's a cement baricade and a fence back at the pavment/dirt juncture that only the landowners have a access to.

Both could probably make it up there but not without some serious work to get pass the deep washouts. One cement bridge has washed out on both sides and it had a 20' drop off of the downhill side. That whole canyon acts as a funnel for all the moisture.

I agree, I first learned to ride in the mountains in the canyon behind Dixon's, and spent many memorable trips up in that area 4-wheeling, camping, Mt. biking, and hiking. It was one of my favorite places, and no better place to escape the heat of summer splashing through the streams on singletrack.
Gotcha. I've been thinking about hiking up past the barricade to see what the canyon looks like these days. I've hiked the canyon length many times following the "old' wagon route through Bland Canyon (which was mostly on the opposite side of the creek from the modern road) and exploring mines and old ruins along the way. I've spent many days exploring Cochiti Canyon beyond Dixon's as well. The old sawmill for Bland used to be at the top of Cochiti Canyon above the Alamos Trail (Carl Shipman). Part of me is curious of what it looks like today and on the other hand just want to remember it for the good times.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:06 PM   #19
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Sad, but true.


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Old 05-16-2013, 08:06 PM   #20
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Huge loss of historic buildings and artifacts there. Very sad.
Some of my coolest finds have been after fires, not everything burns. Sounds like it would be worth a hike.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:32 PM   #21
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just noticed your sig line, Grub----you sold the XR400 & picked up a KTM300?? sweet!
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:32 PM   #22
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Some of my coolest finds have been after fires, not everything burns. Sounds like it would be worth a hike.
Oh, I intend to hike it sometime soon. I've got too much history in that area to not check it out now. I may try to poach it from the top of the canyon. Easier (and shorter) hike that gets you to the historic stuff sooner. Just don't know how bad that area is f'd up right now either.

For history's sake, Bland in it's prime:


Porch of the Exchange Hotel on the far right that burned in the Los Conchas fire.


One of the earliest photos of Bland in 1894...still mostly a tent city but the beginnings of the Exchange Hotel (still single story at this point) on the right. We found the bird cage that is in this photo under the word "Hotel" in the barn behind the hotel in 1996. Got photos of it, but I'm sure it's lost now.
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Very cool, we lost some stuff like that to early 20th century government land trades/grants. Still there, just takes a little more creativity to get to it. Shame to see yours lost to a fire after so many years.
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just noticed your sig line, Grub----you sold the XR400 & picked up a KTM300?? sweet!
I did sir, it still scares me
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For years and years the SFNF miss used any funds sent to them for forest fire abatement. It was hard to visit places like the Black Hills NF in South Dakota and compare what that Forest Service was doing vs the SFNF. Now they are taking every opportunity to close out the public.
I say that it's time to write our congress men ask for a full accounting of the SFNF's spending. And it's time to ask congress to unfund the SFNF on the grounds that if no work is being done and no one is allowed in. Why do we need a huge office like the one in Santa fe that is fully funded and filled to the brim with managers.
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Gotcha. I've been thinking about hiking up past the barricade to see what the canyon looks like these days. I've hiked the canyon length many times following the "old' wagon route through Bland Canyon (which was mostly on the opposite side of the creek from the modern road) and exploring mines and old ruins along the way. I've spent many days exploring Cochiti Canyon beyond Dixon's as well. The old sawmill for Bland used to be at the top of Cochiti Canyon above the Alamos Trail (Carl Shipman). Part of me is curious of what it looks like today and on the other hand just want to remember it for the good times.

You are not going without me, dude. Fat, sad, out of shape, I don't care, I'm going!

RIP Helen. You are missed.
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:46 AM   #27
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I noticed a piece of 50" or less trail on the MVUM in the section on SFNF west of Cuba. Anyone know anything about it? May have to make a trip up there soon to check it out.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:21 AM   #28
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I noticed a piece of 50" or less trail on the MVUM in the section on SFNF west of Cuba. Anyone know anything about it? May have to make a trip up there soon to check it out.
Hmm, sounds interesting. It could be part of the "Oh My God 100"
Desert Race. I have not been in that area for some time. A lot of the local people hang out in that area. Think they call it: Chiwilli road.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:04 PM   #29
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You are not going without me, dude. Fat, sad, out of shape, I don't care, I'm going!
Maybe take a shot at it sometime this fall. I'll let you know.


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RIP Helen. You are missed.
Definately an interesting and amazing woman. Dearly missed.

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Maybe take a shot at it sometime this fall. I'll let you know.




Definately an interesting and amazing woman. Dearly missed.

Two things: (1) I want to go, (2) Background requirement on Helen
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