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Old 05-17-2013, 09:50 AM   #2146
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Hinge Question

Kirk, I know hinges have been discussed a couple of times in the thread but my search-fu is weak. I have a set of paniers (bought before you ramped up production, unfortunately) that has lift-off lids with latches on both ends. I'd like to retrofit them with a hinge on one end instead. The lids fully overlap the box so I'm assuming I need some kind of offset hinge. Could you point me to what you've used?
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:12 PM   #2147
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Kirk, I know hinges have been discussed a couple of times in the thread but my search-fu is weak. I have a set of paniers (bought before you ramped up production, unfortunately) that has lift-off lids with latches on both ends. I'd like to retrofit them with a hinge on one end instead. The lids fully overlap the box so I'm assuming I need some kind of offset hinge. Could you point me to what you've used?
Sure thing...

When I use a piano hinge on an overhanging lid, I add 3/8" clearance; 1/8" on each end, and an extra 1/8" for the hinge itself.

I have used a straight hinge successfully, but have learned to use a 2 1/2" wide piano hinge and bend a kick in one side with my sheet metal brake. All the offset hinges I've researched have all been the wrong size or thickness somehow.

I found a guy on ebay selling 2 1/2" x .070" thick al. hinges, and they are USA made. I don't know if he's drop-shipping or what, but they all have Grainger stickers on the back. I hope this helps.
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Old 05-17-2013, 03:22 PM   #2148
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Alright, in between gigs with a small amount of down time. The non-operational gantry has been bugging me. Let's pop the cover and see what's up.



Thank goodness it's an easy fix. The plungers on both contactors are corroded and hanging up. Some PB Blaster, sandpaper, a fine file and a rag makes it all good in the neighborhood.

I clean all the contacts, scrape off the old gasket on the cover mating surfaces, and button everything up after some blue silicone gasket is applied. The plastic bushing on the upper strain-relief connector was a little sloppy, which allowed some moisture to enter. I spooge some gasket maker in there as well. Good! That should take care of things.

I also flush and refill the gearcase with some tranny fluid. Now I can leave it outside and neglect it some more.




I think there is just enough lift to get it out of the bed of the truck. This 330 cubic foot cylinder clocks in around 175 lbs, so the gantry will be a nice backsaver.

Happy, happy, joy, joy. I actually fixed something.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:01 PM   #2149
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I wish everything was that easy to fix.

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Old 05-18-2013, 04:39 PM   #2150
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I think there is just enough lift to get it out of the bed of the truck. This 330 cubic foot cylinder clocks in around 175 lbs, so the gantry will be a nice backsaver.

Happy, happy, joy, joy. I actually fixed something.
Im loving my Rescued Spanco. Some friends came over this morning to borrow my trailer and I had the 500lb shelf unit I bought sitting in the trailer. They were impressed with the Spanco when they saw it, and really impressed when they saw it lift the shelves without me breaking a sweat.

Nice addition/extension to yours. That will make extending it easier.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:48 AM   #2151
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I wish everything was that easy to fix.

You and me both! Seems like by time I have one thing fixed, 3 more things are broken.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:50 AM   #2152
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Im loving my Rescued Spanco. Some friends came over this morning to borrow my trailer and I had the 500lb shelf unit I bought sitting in the trailer. They were impressed with the Spanco when they saw it, and really impressed when they saw it lift the shelves without me breaking a sweat.

Nice addition/extension to yours. That will make extending it easier.
Pretty fun tool to play with, isn't it? More useful than you could ever imagine and it allows you to tackle big jobs with ease.

I was REALLY bummed out the other day when Dave stopped by and I couldn't post pics of his V-Strom hoisted in the air while performing a swingarm repair. We had to use a come-along on the beam instead of the hoist. I guess I could have snapped some pics still, but it just wasn't the same. HaHa!

I'm glad it's fixed now!
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Old 05-19-2013, 02:14 PM   #2153
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Pretty fun tool to play with, isn't it? More useful than you could ever imagine and it allows you to tackle big jobs with ease.

I was REALLY bummed out the other day when Dave stopped by and I couldn't post pics of his V-Strom hoisted in the air while performing a swingarm repair. We had to use a come-along on the beam instead of the hoist. I guess I could have snapped some pics still, but it just wasn't the same. HaHa!

I'm glad it's fixed now!
Oh yeah. Not straining my back is worth every penny I've invested.

I keep looking for a nice Budgit or CM electric hoist, but none have turned up on CL. I may just buy one from Northern Tool. They have a decent 2,000 lb unit for about $300. Not a great duty cycle, but it would get done what I need to get done.
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Old 05-19-2013, 02:37 PM   #2154
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I think there is just enough lift to get it out of the bed of the truck. This 330 cubic foot cylinder clocks in around 175 lbs, so the gantry will be a nice backsaver.

Happy, happy, joy, joy. I actually fixed something.
You might wanna talk to your local welding supply house about picking up
cyljnder by the cap.

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Old 05-19-2013, 04:14 PM   #2155
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Pretty sure thats a pretty safe way to do it...

edit- maybe not, but the guys that drop the tanks off at my school pick 'em up by the caps all the time.
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:59 PM   #2156
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Yeah, it's actually a good call saying lifting the cylinder by the cap is a big no-no. My buddy at work who used to be a welding instructor told me the very same thing today.

Thanks for the heads-up! I would like to see my kids grow up. And now I and others know.


Now I need to fab something with a lifting eye that the cylinder can sit atop and strap to. Time to roll out the MIG.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:32 PM   #2157
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Yeah, it's actually a good call saying lifting the cylinder by the cap is a big no-no. My buddy at work who used to be a welding instructor told me the very same thing today.

Thanks for the heads-up! I would like to see my kids grow up. And now I and others know.


Now I need to fab something with a lifting eye that the cylinder can sit atop and strap to. Time to roll out the MIG.
Some sort of sling maybe?

Lay it out in the truck bed, roll the cylinder into the middle then hook some loops from the corners or something.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:40 PM   #2158
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One of the outfits that sew up nylon chokers makes a sling for a single bottle, it meets OHSA and it's spendy. A choker that is long enough to allow 3 bites on the bottle, One close to the bottom, the second about 1/2 way up and the third about 18" from the top will work if someone can land the bottle and set it uprite and make sure it is stable.

I'm not able to post pics but if you have a fax# I could send a drawing of
a bottle carrage for use with a crane.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:25 AM   #2159
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Some sort of sling maybe?

Lay it out in the truck bed, roll the cylinder into the middle then hook some loops from the corners or something.
I do have a nice assortment of slings and chokers, but that would require more work to use. I think I will make a dolly of some sort.
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One of the outfits that sew up nylon chokers makes a sling for a single bottle, it meets OHSA and it's spendy. A choker that is long enough to allow 3 bites on the bottle, One close to the bottom, the second about 1/2 way up and the third about 18" from the top will work if someone can land the bottle and set it uprite and make sure it is stable.

I'm not able to post pics but if you have a fax# I could send a drawing of
a bottle carrage for use with a crane.

Thank you very much for your offer, but I don't have a fax here. I think I will build a cylinder dolly complete with wheels and a lifting eye. I will also be able to use it for UPS runs. My old package dolly is a bit long in the tooth and needs a replacement anyway. I can kill two birds with one stone that way.

I'll bend it out of DOM tube and give it a nice, solid foot. That's why my old dolly is so rickety - from overloading it.

It's always nice to have a decent project to look forward to!
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