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Old 05-18-2013, 08:10 AM   #5941
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Dude, seriously... the very last place I would put a Lithium battery is under a gasoline tank.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:30 AM   #5942
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Ah, a setup. Well played, sir.
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Old 05-18-2013, 04:51 PM   #5943
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n16ht5, this forum is for CURRENT XR400 owners. I'm starting to think you really miss yours!
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:04 PM   #5944
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n16ht5, this forum is for CURRENT XR400 owners. I'm starting to think you really miss yours!
Ah! I'm caught!!

So I went and rode my friends XR400 all day today

I'll get another one !! Waiting for the right deal and some fun money
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:54 PM   #5945
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So I went and rode my friends XR400 all day today
I'll get another one !! Waiting for the right deal and some fun money
Lol, I was thinking about the opposite yesterday, getting a WR450 next to my XR4. How do you like the WR, a quick review/comparison please?
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:15 AM   #5946
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I can give a comparison! I sold my 96 XR4 for an 06 WR.
The pros. e-start, oodles of power, fantastic suspension and handling.
The cons. Rock hard seat, more maintenance.
That about sums it!
Although I wear padded shorts that make the seat bearable and the maintenance is really not that bad. Oil every 1000kms, and that is what I did on the XR4 anyway.
If you are doing long days of trail riding and nothing too gnarly then the XR is probably better. If you are getting into some more technical areas then the WR takes over as it is lighter and a lot easier to wrangle around tight sections.
Oh and the power! It is very different to the XR. Not as much of a torque monster but it has enough power to really get you into trouble if you are not concentrating. The WR is not very forgivable compared to the XR
So is one bike better? No. If you love your XR and have no issues with it, then keep it. If you are finding that you have modded the suspension and handling as much as you can and you are still not satisfied and you want some more power, then get a WR.


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Old 05-19-2013, 01:11 AM   #5947
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I can give a comparison! I sold my 96 XR4 for an 06 WR.
Thanks, nice review! Most probably I don't need a new bike, it's just the kid in me (in all of us?), a new toy please! I need no more power (426 kit, I can and do get into trouble even with this), suspension is fine (CRFX USD forks), almost "e-start" with the pumper.

And it's always nice to fly past some slick brand new KTMs on this old dog with trials tire on the rear
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Old 05-19-2013, 07:22 PM   #5948
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Lol, I was thinking about the opposite yesterday, getting a WR450 next to my XR4. How do you like the WR, a quick review/comparison please?

He summed it up really well. I wanted the HP, the WR definitely delivers. Ideally I would have one of each
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:47 AM   #5949
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Subframe weak link?

I have only had my XR400 a short time and trying to get up to speed on the potential weak links. I picked up a spare subframe along with some other parts I wanted. I do not need the spare subframe, it is clean and unbent. I was going to sell it, but have considered keeping it if it my prove handy to have later.

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Old 05-20-2013, 10:09 AM   #5950
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There really aren't any weak links in the 400. The subframe will only be a problem if you carry a lot of weight back there over really rough terrain over extended periods, but it won't hurt to have a spare in your possession. Just keep everything lubed. You might want to pick up spare clutch and throttle cables and pre-route them and zip-tie them in place, just in case.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:16 AM   #5951
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There really aren't any weak links in the 400. The subframe will only be a problem if you carry a lot of weight back there over really rough terrain over extended periods, but it won't hurt to have a spare in your possession. Just keep everything lubed. You might want to pick up spare clutch and throttle cables and pre-route them and zip-tie them in place, just in case.
+1 more or less. The subframe can crack after heavy use but is easily welded, as it is mild steel. But it makes sense to have a spare subframe if one can get one cheap.

The swing arm pivot bolt is known to get stuck, and the frame pipes can rust under the engine.

That is about is as far as I know.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:17 AM   #5952
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+1 more or less. The subframe can crack after heavy use but is easily welded, as it is mild steel. But it makes sense to have a spare subframe if one can get one cheap.

The swing arm pivot bolt is known to get stuck, and the frame pipes can rust under the engine.

That is about is as far as I know.
The sidestand mount can break off of the frame also. If, however, one were to use the sidestand for its intended purpose (holding the bike up), it will last forever. I believe the trouble arises when folks rest on the seat with the sidestand holding both them and the bike. The sidestand mount on my old '98 frame had been partially torn off and re-welded by a previous owner.


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The subframes have been known to break for various reasons, curiously in pretty much the same spot. The small-diameter cross tube must flex quite a bit, and the triangular gusset stops that motion, creating a stress riser.


Photo by Dr.Lewell


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Re-weld and reinforcement isn't difficult though. Mine had been broken by a previous owner and repaired & reinforced in the same manner illustrated above.

More on Subframe Breakage here on the XR4 Thread:
Post numbers 1682, 1691-98, 1713, 1768, & 2326
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:09 PM   #5953
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:33 AM   #5954
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Mondo Sahara

Austin Vince, famous Brit, did the Mondo Enduro and Terra Circa (basically a around the world low budget trip via the longest route possible on DR350s) has a new project, Mondo Sahara. Using XR400 Honda's

http://youtu.be/JRNwBRbdx20

http://youtu.be/Jz6CmOpHG40

http://wemoto-news.blogspot.nl/2012/...ce-is-off.html

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=861224

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Old 05-22-2013, 06:27 AM   #5955
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Interesting, how almost every one of them has junk piled in front of the oil cooler....
Not an issue?
Edit: Just watched the video... it only looks that way in the pic. Only 2 of them have the cooler blocked in some way.
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