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Old 05-20-2013, 10:17 AM   #76
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You can see the the arrow, it's correct:





EDIT: The same on the 1200:

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Old 05-20-2013, 01:56 PM   #77
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You can see the the arrow, it's correct:





EDIT: The same on the 1200:

Oh wow I'm wrong.

It just seems arse about to draw mud to centre.

I wonder if you mounted the other way how it would work? For muddier riding I would def reverse the front for current and try it. Otherwise it must be average in the mud?

Ps those trails look awesome!! Is that some late season snow melt causing the mud?
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Old 05-20-2013, 06:39 PM   #78
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Oh wow I'm wrong.

It just seems arse about to draw mud to centre.

I wonder if you mounted the other way how it would work? For muddier riding I would def reverse the front for current and try it. Otherwise it must be average in the mud?

Ps those trails look awesome!! Is that some late season snow melt causing the mud?
I believe there might be some difference in the design philosophy between a 35km/h tractor and a 160km/h motorcycle.

As mentioned earlier in this topic, front tyres with directional tread almost always face the "wrong" way to provide traction under braking on wet roads. Remember, this is not an offroad-only tyre, it's for highway use too.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:19 PM   #79
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There absolutely nothing wrong with your English. You would not want to see most members attempts at posting in Swiss. Thanks for taking the time to post these pictures.

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Old 05-20-2013, 07:26 PM   #80
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:40 PM   #81
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I believe there might be some difference in the design philosophy between a 35km/h tractor and a 160km/h motorcycle.

As mentioned earlier in this topic, front tyres with directional tread almost always face the "wrong" way to provide traction under braking on wet roads. Remember, this is not an offroad-only tyre, it's for highway use too.
Perhaps a topic for another day but pushing water out of the way and clearing the tyre of water etc is first principle.

There's little difference in the concept of keeping the tyre clear of mud and or water
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:12 AM   #82
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Ps those trails look awesome!! Is that some late season snow melt causing the mud?
Didn't see your question.

No melting snow, just a good rainy week :)! And in the forest, no sun to dry this mud

In fact forest trails are nearly always wet and muddy because we don't have a lot of sunny days without rain in between...
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:20 PM   #83
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That front tire looks noisy and lots of vibrations.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:04 PM   #85
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Less vibrations than the K60 Scout I had on my 950 Adv, but a little more noisy ;)
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:43 AM   #86
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pushing water out of the way and clearing the tyre of water etc is first principle.

There's little difference in the concept of keeping the tyre clear of mud and or water
this is correct, as there is no drive to a front wheel on a motorcycle (ususally). The front tyre is mounted in a manner that clears water and mud under braking. As per the photos you see.
Remember, the rear wheel drives the bike, the front wheel stops it
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:12 PM   #87
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this is correct, as there is no drive to a front wheel on a motorcycle (ususally). The front tyre is mounted in a manner that clears water and mud under braking. As per the photos you see.
Remember, the rear wheel drives the bike, the front wheel stops it
How does that front tyre clear water and mud? The mud enters the side and is channeled to the centre. Even car tyres are direction based so they channel water out, not direct it in.

I still reckon that front is mounted wrong way for anything but dry pavement
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:16 PM   #88
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Imagine the front tyre skidding, it will then channel mud and water from the centre out through the sides. Any time you apply the brakes you get a small degree of tyre slip. (if i remember correctly approx 13% slip gives maximum braking) so this effect happens each time you brake, while the same but in the opposite direction is happening on the rear, because that end is driving.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:45 PM   #89
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^^^ agree 100%.

can you imagine going into slime and tapping the front brake with the tire blocks pointing the same as the rear? Talk about ice.

That being said, curious how that rear would work on loose dirt trying to use the back end to steer or locking up the rear down a hill
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:41 AM   #90
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How does the front tyre have any connection to the rear ? It doesn't.

Your argument about flex might make sense on pavement only.

You want the front and rear to clear mud and water.

There is no way in mud that mounting would clear better than changing its direction. It would clog up and be terrible
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