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Old 05-22-2013, 09:12 AM   #976
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Every time you post those photos, I am again impressed by the technology packed into the wheels hubs of a F1 car. They are amazingly complex things.
new Red Bull rear brakes
scoopless (just like their new fronts)...

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Old 05-22-2013, 09:15 AM   #977
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:19 AM   #978
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Williams testing stepped nose, but only for practice. Using regular nose in qualifying & the race (at least that's the story for now).

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Old 05-22-2013, 12:19 PM   #979
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Fred dealing the smack down to Red Bull... Kimi doesn't seem to care one way or the other...
If Fred wins, he'll be the first guy to do it for three different teams.


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Fernando Alonso reckons Red Bull's criticism of the Pirelli Formula 1 tyres is simply the result of it not being able to handle defeat well.
Red Bull has been outspoken about Pirelli this season, saying the high degradation 2013 tyres prevent it from fully exploiting the speed of its RB9.
But ahead of the Monaco Grand Prix, Alonso said that Red Bull should question its attitude, as he queried whether the reigning champion does indeed have the fastest car.
When asked to respond to recent complaints about the F1 format, which included Red Bull owner Dietrich Mateschitz saying F1 was 'nothing to do with racing anymore', Alonso said: "It's more a question for them, they made those comments.
"Barcelona was a good race, not so good for some of our competitors. Some of these competitors claim they have a super car but the last three pole positions were for another car when the tyres are new.
"When you win too easily for some years, it's difficult to lose some races."
TALK IS STILL ALL ABOUT TYRES
The issue of tyres remains the main talking point in F1 at the moment, especially as teams still await news from Pirelli about exactly what changes are being made to the structures for the Canadian Grand Prix.
AUTOSPORT understands that in the wake of the FIA insisting that modifications are only made on safety grounds, the only changes will be the belt structure of the rear tyres to prevent the delaminations that have hit a number of drivers in recent races.
Even that minor change could have an impact on tyre temperatures though. That scenario could help outfits like Mercedes and Red Bull that have struggled so far.
Kimi Raikkonen, whose Lotus is one of the best on the tyres, was open-minded over the differences, and suggested that the performance of teams would not change that much.
"The fairest way would be to keep the same [tyres], but there is a lot of pressure to do something," he explained. "They did some changes [before] and they didn't really affect us.
"I don't think it is going to make a lot of difference whatever [changes] they make, but I might be wrong.
"I am sure we are not going to start complaining if we are going to have some issues. If they make stronger rear tyres then we could go faster, and it could help us. I don't really see that it suddenly makes one car faster than the others."
HAMILTON: TYRES ARE EVERYTHING
Lewis Hamilton hopes the Pirelli modifications will mitigate degradation.
When told that Mark Webber said it was wrong for a slump like Hamilton's second-to-12th plunge in Spain to be possible, Hamilton replied: "What I like about Mark is that he says a lot of things that are true and a lot of things that he is very blunt about - he says it regardless.
"For other people it is not that easy to do, and I will not put it the way he put it.
"Whether or not we have gone too far, only time will tell. I definitely don't think you should be able to be that far up and get lapped from second on the grid, but that is the name of the game at the moment."
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:41 PM   #980
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Old 05-23-2013, 06:50 AM   #981
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Williams testing stepped nose, but only for practice. Using regular nose in qualifying & the race (at least that's the story for now).

so the story on the nose is: that was last year's wing and they can't use it

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Williams quick with 2012 nose & wing in FP1. But parts not available for race. Flexibility not legal
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:00 AM   #982
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Wing aero is amazingly complex as well. Just looking at some of them it seems they are using some of the blades as a combo aero element and as a faux 'duct' to create high pressure areas then directing that high pressure air onto a tiny winglet. Pretty creative, but I also see the upper echelon teams don't even bother to try it so I wonder how effective it really is.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:30 AM   #983
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probably too soon to talk about 2014 but...

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Old 05-23-2013, 08:21 AM   #984
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:47 AM   #985
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I wonder why there's so much nostalgia for races which were won on Saturday? Races which bored us to tears on Sunday. Races with no passing. Races with no tension. Races with preordained outcomes.

Races where they might as well have left the cars in the trailers.

Do people really understand what it is they want to return to?

It's crazy.
No nostalgia here. I just don't find pit stops to be exciting, I don't envision parked (however briefly) cars when the word "racing" crosses my mind, and I don't think pit stops should be the focus of any spint race.

What's frustrating is that the reason for F1's processional nature is known to every engineer in the paddock, including those that write the rules. Yet F1 does nothing substantive to address it. Instead they pile on gimmicks--DRS, tires designed to fail, etc.--as if what any sport really needs to be more exciting is more management from the blue blazers.

I'm left to assume they don't want to fix it, for whatever reason(s).
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:16 AM   #986
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One more bit of info on the whole "the tires are ruining F1" panic. Red Bull's average finish position through 5 races this season is identical to last season (5th), even with Webers DNF at China this year. Mercedes is actually better (average of 13th last season and 9th this). Hamilton averaged a 5th place through 5 races last year, and 6th this year. Vettel was averaging 5th through 5 races in 2012 and his average this year is 3rd.

Red Bull, Ferarri, Lotus and Mercedes ALL have more constructors' points through 5 races this season than at this point last season. McLaren is the only big loser among the top teams from last year, replaced by Force India this season.

I already posted earlier about the data showning winning lap times essentially unchanged from last season.

So what exactly are Red Bull's and Mercedes' complaints about the tires? Why is everyone (except Ferarri, Lotus and Force India) in a tizzy about the tires?
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Old 05-23-2013, 04:53 PM   #987
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Gp2

Sorry if this has been covered already but what is NBC Sports plans for GP2? Looks like it is scheduled for the upcoming Monaco weekend but I didn't see it scheduled around the Spanish F1 weekend... Thx Ken
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:16 PM   #989
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Sorry if this has been covered already but what is NBC Sports plans for GP2? Looks like it is scheduled for the upcoming Monaco weekend but I didn't see it scheduled around the Spanish F1 weekend... Thx Ken
They typically carry the GP2 race live, from what I've seen. Will Buxton does the commentary, I believe. Are you sure they didn't do it in Spain?
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Monaco Practice Times

1. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 14.759s
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 15.077s
3. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 15.196s
4. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 15.278s
5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1m 15.404s
6. Kimi Raikkonen Finand Lotus-Renault 1m 15.511s
7. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1m 15.718s
8. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 15.959s
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1m 16.014s
10. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1m 16.046s
11. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1m 16.349s
12. Sergio Perez Mexico McLaren-Mercedes 1m 16.434s
13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Sauber-Ferrari 1m 16.823s
14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1m 16.857s
15. Esteban Gutierrez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1m 16.935s
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 17.145s
17. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 17.184s
18. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 1m 17.264s
19. Jules Bianchi France Marussia-Cosworth 1m 17.892s
20. Charles Pic France Caterham-Renault 1m 18.212s
21. Max Chilton Britain Marussia-Cosworth 1m 18.784s
22. Giedo van der Garde Holland Caterham-Renault 1m 19.031s
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