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Old 05-27-2013, 09:27 AM   #91
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I'm curious as to what instigated the incident.
I think many of these road rage incidents result from perceived or actual intrusions into another motorist's "territory". Things like tailgating, blocking lanes, cutting someone off.

I once pissed a guy off with a fast pass (in my car) without even intruding into his space.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:54 AM   #92
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First of all I've been keeping up with this thread and agree with just about everyone in that this guy at the very least needs to lose his license if not permanently, then at least for a few years and have proof that he has been getting professional help in managing his anger. I've gotten pissed about idiots on the road but that doesn't give me the right to blatantly try to cause them to have an accident and possibly killing them. I just leave them be and talk myself.

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But motorcycle tires are usually far stickier than a car tire and have much higher friction with the road surface. I just can't believe a stock car will outcorner a stock GS unless the car is an s2000 or a vette for example(which also should come with stickier tires)
Honestly most stock sports cars can usually brake later, harder, and carry more corner speed than a bike (lets assume that both are using stock tires). There are a lot of factors at play but having much more rubber on the ground helps. Motorcycles tend to kick a cars ass accelerating out of the corners and their ability to make a nearly straight line through esses. Of course it would take a very good driver to brake as late and carry the speed that some are capable of. I remember reading an article a while back where they had telemetry of both a bike and a car on the same track. The bike destroyed the car, but only because it was much much faster accelerating from the corners.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:27 PM   #93
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...there's one [other] aspect I think was missed...

If the guy has that much of an anger problem that he would purposely wreck a motorcycle, she's almost certainly in an abusive relationship. It's amazing how compliant the victim of abuse can be, almost like a form of Stockholm Syndrome.
That's a very good point, she may have been in fear for her life.
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Bullshit!!!

I've been hit three times by assholes in cars, one was drunk, one wasn't paying attention to anything, and the last one thought they had the right of way, and that's just on bicycles, motorcycles i've had them look at me and give me the finger for no apparent reason other than i was looking at them... WTF? assholes like that guy need to be beaten in public with a freakin tire iron..... hart goes out to the couple. looks like the girlfreind in the video was sticking with the i don't know, hope she doens't reproduce anymore...
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:39 AM   #95
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But motorcycle tires are usually far stickier than a car tire and have much higher friction with the road surface. I just can't believe a stock car will outcorner a stock GS unless the car is an s2000 or a vette for example(which also should come with stickier tires)
Found this on another board:

In 1990, Motorcyclist compared a Yamaha FZR 1000 to a Corvette ZR-1, with Nick Ienatsch doing the riding:
Nick went out carefully, working slowly up to his own comfort level, not trying to push the Yamaha's tires very near their traction limits. Still, it was nerve racking to watch Nick grinding his knee pads down to nubbins on the 200ft-diameter circle. His best time translated to .75g.
Contrast that .75 on an R1 (by one of the best riders) with the .81 Car & Driver got out of a 2009 Toyota Corolla XRS. Now, I know the XRS isn't a base model car, but still, it's a freaking Corolla.

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Old 05-28-2013, 11:14 AM   #96
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This thread got me thinking about road rage in general, and I ended up doing some internet searches on the topic.

I found a ton of information from different organizations, including technical academic articles.

One site I looked at said that tailgating is the most common cause.
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Found this on another board:

In 1990, Motorcyclist compared a Yamaha FZR 1000 to a Corvette ZR-1, with Nick Ienatsch doing the riding:
Nick went out carefully, working slowly up to his own comfort level, not trying to push the Yamaha's tires very near their traction limits. Still, it was nerve racking to watch Nick grinding his knee pads down to nubbins on the 200ft-diameter circle. His best time translated to .75g.
Contrast that .75 on an R1 (by one of the best riders) with the .81 Car & Driver got out of a 2009 Toyota Corolla XRS. Now, I know the XRS isn't a base model car, but still, it's a freaking Corolla.

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That's good information! Had no idea the limit was that low for production bikes, would have expected 1g for sure.

Remind me to stay far away from 45 degree lean angle hehe.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:14 PM   #98
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I've found that openly carrying a large handgun tends to change the behavior of potential road ragers even the mentally unstable seem to get it. It's also not that hard to learn to shoot off handed and it is regularly included in both IPSCA and USPSA matches.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:35 PM   #99
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That's good information! Had no idea the limit was that low for production bikes, would have expected 1g for sure.

Remind me to stay far away from 45 degree lean angle hehe.
It's not.


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That said, a good race car can out corner a modern sport bike, BUT the bike is so much smaller it can straighten out the curves enough to usually keep similar speeds.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:39 PM   #100
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I've found that openly carrying a large handgun tends to change the behavior of potential road ragers even the mentally unstable seem to get it. It's also not that hard to learn to shoot off handed and it is regularly included in both IPSCA and USPSA matches.
I take it that you'd pop a cap at someone in a car? Yeah. Right. You would go to prison, whether you were in the right or not.
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I've found that openly carrying a large handgun tends to change the behavior of potential road ragers even the mentally unstable seem to get it. It's also not that hard to learn to shoot off handed and it is regularly included in both IPSCA and USPSA matches.
unfortunately that doesnt work when someone else has a large handgun or in California
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I've found that openly carrying a large handgun tends to change the behavior of potential road ragers even the mentally unstable seem to get it. It's also not that hard to learn to shoot off handed and it is regularly included in both IPSCA and USPSA matches.

Fucking hell. A regular Dirty Harry.

Bragging about how much your 'large handgun' makes you a badass to be feared and respected is well and truly respected here, noob. But not as much as your sandwich making ability.

Please keep it up.

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I've found that openly carrying a large handgun tends to change the behavior of potential road ragers even the mentally unstable seem to get it. It's also not that hard to learn to shoot off handed and it is regularly included in both IPSCA and USPSA matches.
It's amusing to see you got comments from all the Kalis who couldn't carry openly if they wanted to. I've been known to pull the jacket up and tuck it behind the .45 gun butt when needed. Weak hand practice can pay off if needed.
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Most people are aggressive if they think they have the upper hand - ie a few thousands pounds of car vs Motorcycle, once you introduce some danger to their side of the situation the behavior changes abruptly from agressive to I suddenly need to be somewhere else right now. It may seem strange to those from the liberal run state of Cali but everyone and their grandmother has a gun in Georgia.
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unfortunately that doesnt work when someone else has a large handgun or in California
Everybody and their grand mother has gun in Georgia, that's what Southern Hospitality is all about. If you go around starting trouble and being an ass someone will eventually take your little bet. Its best to be nice on the streets here.
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