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Old 05-29-2013, 11:52 AM   #121
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:59 AM   #122
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This is probably one of the best points I've seen so far. I know I've seen a G plot of a sport bike somewhere but i think it was only for acceleration. I don't think I've seen anything about a bikes lateral G capability. I would expect it to be somewhere around 1G though.

I would also have to add is that not only is it easier to exploit a car's capabilities, but you also have an added safety in the form of a cage. I would guess that one factor alone would allow a well driven sports car to keep up with most sport bikes on a tight road. From my experience on the dragon (i had a 370Z for a year); on a nice day I was generally able to keep up with the sane sport bikes (the ones that stayed in their lane). They would pull a way on the straighter bits but I could catch back up in the corners.
I would love to see them shut down the road once a year for a Hill climb style event. Start from the base by the big turnout and have it run up to the state line. Then have a couple of moto classes and a couple of car classes. For the cars just have a simple rule of street legal and helmets required. All vehicles run DOT approved rubber and sign a waiver to compete. I dunno, I've always thought that would be cool. It would let people legally use the whole road without any worries of traffic. I've almost been hit by cars in my lane with the 370, I would hate to be in that situation with a bike. Doubt it will ever happen but still....

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It takes more skill from a rider on a bike to get max G force from the bike than it does from a driver in a car to get to max G force. So not only is the car more capable it's easier for the driver to exploit those capabilites. Of course a $12,000 sport bike is a more advanced machine than most $18,000 SUVs.
On topic though. has anyone heard anything else about this idiot?
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:08 PM   #123
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I agree for the most part. I, for one, am normally against law suits and think they should only be used as a last resort.

On the other hand, who is supposed to pay for all the medical bills the two riders will receive once the insurance runs out? Not only that, but who is to pay for all the wages lost do to the mishap? And the trauma inflicted on the riders?

Leave all the mental anguish/trauma out of it. Just look at it on a monetary basis.

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Medical Bills for two people (This could be by far the biggest cost.)
Lost Wages for two people (Maybe even a Job, depending on the employer.)

That's just the three things off the top of my head that I can think of and I am sure there is more than that. I bet insurance would cover, maybe a third of that, maybe a little more.

Are you saying the riders, in this case, should be responsible and have to pay these debts.

I understand they may of had their part in the "exchange of words", but they did not use deadly force and then flee the seen.
If the rider does not file a law suit their insurance co most likely file one to recoup their losses.

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:12 PM   #124
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On topic though. has anyone heard anything else about this idiot?
he plead not guilty....

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/...dge-road-rage/

classy guy. cant believe he is only 24..... methinks this guy is no stranger to some decent drugs

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:13 PM   #125
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Yep...they'll just chop your ass up with a machete and knives and make the public wait 30+ minutes for armed police officers to show up.
It is interesting that you refer to that specific incident.
My first thought when I heard the news was "what, only one soldier? That is typically Europe"

Imagine what an isolated lunatic like that could have acompliced, if he could have easily bought an assault rifle and a few handguns earlier that morning.
In the US a guy like that would not even have considered leaving home without a shitload of guns and killing only one person.

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:25 PM   #126
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I like the fact that he is also charged with endangering the little boy that was in his car.

He looks like he is sitting somewhat uncomfortably.
I bet he is very popular with bikers in his local jail.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:29 PM   #127
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It is actualy funny that you refer to that specific incident.
My first thought when I heard the news was "what, only one soldier? That is typically Europe"

Imagine what an isolated lunatic like that could have acompliced, if he could have easily bought an assault rifle and a few handguns earlier that morning.
In the US a guy like that would not even have considered leaving home without a shitload of guns and killing only one person.

The point he's trying to make is had the guy been carrying a handgun he'd probably still be alive and the terrorists would be dead... Victims are victims whether they are killed with a knife or a rifle....

btw an isolated lunatic doesn't have accomplices ...in fact if they were isolated they would hurt no one....because they are isolated....
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:46 PM   #128
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Correction : you're right, 2 lunatics.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:47 PM   #129
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I like the fact that he is also charged with endangering the little boy that was in his car.

He looks like he is sitting somewhat uncomfortably.
I bet he is very popular with bikers in his local jail.
you about 70% of the population?

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:48 PM   #130
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:12 PM   #131
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This is probably one of the best points I've seen so far. I know I've seen a G plot of a sport bike somewhere but i think it was only for acceleration. I don't think I've seen anything about a bikes lateral G capability. I would expect it to be somewhere around 1G though.
I linked this, but no one seems to click it.



g force plot of modern sport bike. Now please remember, that's not a GSA, and it's not 2 up.

As for this clown, hopefully he will get enough punishment to grow the hell up.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:41 PM   #132
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Well, he is doing a good job off looking a good bubble off level in this picture. Doesn't look quite "there". But then, spending a bunch of nights in the pokey dancin wit Bubba probably does that to a guy.

That in itself is justice of a sort.
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Old 05-30-2013, 09:58 AM   #133
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Well, he is doing a good job off looking a good bubble off level in this picture. Doesn't look quite "there". But then, spending a bunch of nights in the pokey dancin wit Bubba probably does that to a guy.

That in itself is justice of a sort.
I watched the video, and to me the guy looks pretty stressed, as the consequences of his driving sink in.
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:10 PM   #134
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I fucking love these posts assuming all Californians are unarmed, gun hating, and lets not forget the "liberal" insults.
Please, stay in Georgia.
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:20 PM   #135
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On the subject they need to make an example of this dirt bag.

On the other subject of what modern day sportbikes are capable of read this article. Will surprise many on cornering ability of bikes now. There was a 1.58g recorded in a turn on the 1198S during the track time.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s/viewall.html
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