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Old 05-25-2013, 10:31 PM   #76
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Blacked out the chrome on the grill today. Ahhh...so much better.

Also got a 'sun strip' window tint on the upper windshield last week. There is no factory tinting up there so it needed something to combat the "green-house" effect.


any updates on the subie?
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Old 05-27-2013, 08:48 AM   #77
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The CrossTrek is making our Top3 for all the reasons mentioned. One of Guanowife's main criteria, however, is quietness, so disappointed to hear of the excess noise at highway speeds We'll likely drive the Manual and the CVT back-to-back to compare, but greatly prefer the manual "experience".

Also, I'm still leery of CVTs -- numb & droning feel, untested reliability, etc. I still picture 2 cones, a belt, and a LOT of wear & friction between the two, as in a cheap scooter but with a lot more weight to accelerate. That Subaru adds sound insulation to the CVT models makes me wonder if they're trying to cover something up, too.
Has the technology evolved to at least meet the reliability of a "regular" automatic? Also, what are the service requirements?

This car scratches a lot of itches for us, and we really want to like it. But like OP's experience, noise could be the deal-breaker. CVT, too.
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:35 AM   #78
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CVT is great. We have it in our Maxima. It's under warranty. Probably not the same CVT, but still.. good technology. Not good for MPG.
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Old 05-27-2013, 11:51 AM   #79
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CVT is great. We have it in our Maxima. It's under warranty. Probably not the same CVT, but still.. good technology. Not good for MPG.
Interesting. I thought the trend towards CVTs was fir MPG.
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Old 05-27-2013, 12:08 PM   #80
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The CrossTrek is making our Top3 for all the reasons mentioned. One of Guanowife's main criteria, however, is quietness, so disappointed to hear of the excess noise at highway speeds We'll likely drive the Manual and the CVT back-to-back to compare, but greatly prefer the manual "experience".

Also, I'm still leery of CVTs -- numb & droning feel, untested reliability, etc. I still picture 2 cones, a belt, and a LOT of wear & friction between the two, as in a cheap scooter but with a lot more weight to accelerate. That Subaru adds sound insulation to the CVT models makes me wonder if they're trying to cover something up, too.
Has the technology evolved to at least meet the reliability of a "regular" automatic? Also, what are the service requirements?

This car scratches a lot of itches for us, and we really want to like it. But like OP's experience, noise could be the deal-breaker. CVT, too.
If there is only one thing I can contribute to this place, it's this: DO NOT GET A SUBARU CVT!

What a turd of a transmission! My Legacy never felt like it was in the right gear. And something simple, like going from reverse to drive took an agonizingly long second. Trust me, that sounds like nothing, but when experiencing it in a busy parking lot, watch out!

Subaru really ought to ditch the CVT in favor of a DSG type auto.

The worst thing I did was buy that car, the best thing I did was dump it.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:43 PM   #81
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I know that Subaru changed a plethora of transmission programming in 2013 on the Outback CVT.
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Old 05-27-2013, 10:34 PM   #82
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Interesting. I thought the trend towards CVTs was fir MPG.
that was my thinking
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:40 PM   #83
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CVT is great. We have it in our Maxima. It's under warranty. Probably not the same CVT, but still.. good technology. Not good for MPG.
I think that might be your right foot

CVT's get better MPG than even manual transmissions.
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:47 AM   #84
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The June issue of Car & Driver magazine compares a CVT-equipped Forester with a Rav4 and CX-5.
The Forester was doomed from the get-go, due almost solely to its CVT -- "a deal-breaker" says the author. Suspect the Crosstrek's CVT is the same.

Crashworthy, though. This one was pulled from a river after falling in due to an interstate bridge collapse.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:20 PM   #85
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The June issue of Car & Driver magazine compares a CVT-equipped Forester with a Rav4 and CX-5.
The Forester was doomed from the get-go, due almost solely to its CVT -- "a deal-breaker" says the author. Suspect the Crosstrek's CVT is the same.

Crashworthy, though. This one was pulled from a river after falling in due to an interstate bridge collapse.
You sure the owner didn't just drive off the bridge to get rid of the POS CVT?
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Old 05-29-2013, 02:52 PM   #86
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I drove both just to compare, but definitely wanted the 5spd manual so we could tow it four-down behind the RV. Setup for towing below.

I did not care for the CVT though, it maintains a given rpm based on your throttle setting, and accellerates the car. If you tramp it it's noisy. The trans is said to be noisy anyway. I would much rather have a MBZ 7-speed auto, they are ALWAYS in the right gear and it shifts all the time but you never know it. Truly a nicely done slushbox.

I was the test-dummy for BlueOx, fit their base plate for Impreza on my new 'trek as a test for them. Free goods of course!!




Tows my bike trailer too...win-win!

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Old 06-01-2013, 09:59 AM   #87
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The June issue of Car & Driver magazine compares a CVT-equipped Forester with a Rav4 and CX-5.
The Forester was doomed from the get-go, due almost solely to its CVT -- "a deal-breaker" says the author. Suspect the Crosstrek's CVT is the same.

Crashworthy, though. This one was pulled from a river after falling in due to an interstate bridge collapse.
seems to have survived pretty well considering the fall. funny I remember seeing the pictures and thinking that looks like a crosstrek now its confirmed.
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Old 06-01-2013, 06:16 PM   #88
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seems to have survived pretty well considering the fall. funny I remember seeing the pictures and thinking that looks like a crosstrek now its confirmed.
Those "cookie cutter" wheels are the tip off!
I really like the concept of the vehicle and love Subies, I am just wondering if a turbo or a DIESEL is in store next year...
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Those "cookie cutter" wheels are the tip off!
I really like the concept of the vehicle and love Subies, I am just wondering if a turbo or a DIESEL is in store next year...
A turbo diesel, 6 speed manual and pleather would get my blood flowing!
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Those "cookie cutter" wheels are the tip off!
I really like the concept of the vehicle and love Subies, I am just wondering if a turbo or a DIESEL is in store next year...
Europe and AUS get a diesel and a 6spd. WTF is the matter with them not bringing the good stuff to the US??

Leather is an option,nicely done, but comes with a roof and nav (POS) which adds a LOT to the price. Oh, and no
stick option with the up-model either.
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