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Old 06-02-2013, 12:38 PM   #1
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Question Mexican itinerary

Here is a tentative itinerary for our trip through Mexico bound for Argentina. It is the first leg out of the US and Canada, and I want to ease into the "Latin" part of the trip slowly.

We are in no Rush, I have avoided both the Sea of Cortez and the Gulf/Caribbean coast. We have been on several occasions to the Beaches, and there will be plenty of time as we make our south for sand and sea. On the other hand we have never been to central Mexico.

The map shows a rough itinerary, but it is by no means definite. I do want to see some of the colonial cities, 3-4 days in Mexico city and enter through Copper Canyon. I am yet to receive the Lonely Planet, so have done little research, and do not want to over plan the route, but I would hate to miss the hidden-to-me treasures.

Point of references are as follow:

A Douglas AZ to cross
B Hermosillo
C Creel to enter the Copper Canyon area
D Batopilas
E Guachochi to exit Copper Canyon
F Torreon
G Saltillo
H Zacatecas
I San Luis Potosi
J Santiago de Querétaro
K Mexico City
L Oaxaca
M Pochutla
N Mapastepec
O Tapachula



From Tapachula, we have options to cross into Guatemala that can be explored as we get closer.

Some of the cities/villages along the way are just reference points I used to draw the line. So this is just a general South bound route in Central Mex.

What am I missing/will I miss with this general itinerary? Any suggestions re. routes and places to visits would be welcome.

I am not fearful of travelling in Mexico, we speak Spanish and are seasoned travellers. A smile and common sense are our weapons of choice.

Looking forward to comments and suggestions.

Thanks in advance
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:57 PM   #2
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A Douglas AZ to cross
B Hermosillo
C Creel to enter the Copper Canyon area
D Batopilas
E Guachochi to exit Copper Canyon
F Torreon
G Saltillo
H Zacatecas
I San Luis Potosi
J Santiago de Querétaro
K Mexico City
L Oaxaca
M Pochutla
N Mapastepec
O Tapachula
Torreón is a non-descript factory town and is the one town on your list that if I never see again my heart wouldn't be broken. That said, I'm riding through it again on the way to Durango in two weeks and change.

Bato's principal road is under heavy construction and the condition of sections of it varies widely day to day.

Saltillo is another factory town (cars) but has a somewhat charming city center. Of sorts.

You should stop at San Miguel de Allende between I and J

Best on your list (subjective) is Oaxaca. Allot more time for Oaxaca. See the ride report below.

Reward yourself with a beach rest somewhere on the Oaqueña (state) coastline. Mazunte and that region will do fine.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:00 PM   #3
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I would opt to exit Copper Canyon via Hidalgo de Parral and ride to Durango over going East to Saltillo. Torreon is a dump btw and you can avoid it by this route. I think you'll enjoy the mountains in Oaxaca and Chiapas over taking the coastal route and the highland border crossing La Mesilla is far better place to cross than Tapachula. A run down Mex 175 to P. Angel or P. Escondido or Huatulco would be highly recommended as well. Don't rush through Mexico as it is very rewarding. Saludos, Jim
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:44 PM   #4
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I would try to spend some time between Zacatecas, Queretaro, Guanajuato, and San Miguel due Allende. These are all nice cities.
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:18 PM   #5
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Thanks a lot guys, exactly the type of first hand knowledge I was looking for. Will start reconnecting the dots.

Great to know about La Messilla crossing.

I am getting excited just typing this line woohoo!! can you say road trip
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #6
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Your glaring error has already been pointed out twice. To reiterate, cut out Torreon and Monterrey and go south to Durango. When you route through Durango go through Santiago Papsquiaro. It's more interesting than the route directly south from Parral. Give me a should if you want to meet up.

Definitely substitute Guanajuato city for Queretero and look into the pyramids at Teotihuacán. They are just off the highway.

You might consider going south from Fresnillo, Zac to Guadalajara and getting to Mexico City through Michoacán. You will miss out on some culture, but the riding is better. Depends on what you are into.

Also, I wouldn't back track just to go to Hermosillo. IMO there is not much to see there.

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Old 06-02-2013, 04:12 PM   #7
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I think the aquaduct in Queretaro is worth seeing. The is a nice one in downtown Zacatecas, but its not a big as the one in Q.
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Morelia is perhaps the most beautiful city in Mex IMO and has a great aqueduct too.
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Morelia is perhaps the most beautiful city in Mex IMO and has a great aqueduct too.
Very true, but these guys are aren't going that way. They will be heading through Zacatecas and maybe Queretaro.
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Laugh Might have to detour

It's not like we are on a mission or anything, if I am convinced enough we'll stop in Morelia, I like the aquaducts.


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Thanks again for the suggestions, so far I have eliminated Hermosillo, added Durango, made a few points on the Oaxaca area, then down the Coast and a hard left (East) at Huixtla for La Mesilla, Quatemala.
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Old 06-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #11
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Awesome! Enjoy your odyssey.
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Old 06-02-2013, 08:19 PM   #12
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Everything said so far is right on but you can also take out Hermosillo. It's not worth seeing and there are many cops just waiting to give a "ticket" for speeding through their town. You can easily ride from Douglas all the way to Creel in one day via Casa Grande and Guerrero.
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Old 06-03-2013, 05:30 AM   #13
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If you get to Mexico City before September we will be happy to put you up and show you some of the sights.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:19 AM   #14
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Make the Mexico City to Oaxaca leg infinitely more interesting by jogging to Puebla and then heading down to Oaxaca via the Sierra Secreta and Tehuacan.
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Morelia is perhaps the most beautiful city in Mex IMO and has a great aqueduct too.
YES! & the Pueblo Magico(read up on these cities, some of which are real gems) town of Patzcuaro is nearby. As you have Saltillo on your list, skip it & go to nearby Real de Catorce & stay @ the hotel of same name(see their website) for more flavor of Mexico. Also consider adding Guanajuato & a run east to the coast then down through to Palenque & across Chiapas toward your GT entry point.
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