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Old 06-10-2013, 04:02 AM   #151
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One of my closest friends has a 2013 Piaggio BV350. The GTi300 will pull it by 2 or 3 bike lengths up to about 50 then the BV will pull away by a bike length or two. It feels like the BV's clutch locks in almost immediately and that brings the rpms down. It then has to build back up. The GTi doesn't lock up completely until about 40 or so. That's what it feels like. Off the line the GTi is a rocket for a 300.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:56 PM   #152
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My mpg is dropping off a bit, now 62-66. Seems the rear brake is dragging a little. Anyone else have this going on?
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:33 AM   #153
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My mpg is dropping off a bit, now 62-66. Seems the rear brake is dragging a little. Anyone else have this going on?
Every bike, every brakes drag a little.
Hard to tell if it's too much or not over a forum.

There is considerable scraping noises on my DT300 when pushing it
around but the rotors don't get hot while riding so I guess it's fine.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:49 PM   #154
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I actually rode about 10 miles without using the rear brake at all. When I checked, the rear rotor was hot enough that you couldn't touch it without getting burned.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:43 PM   #155
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I actually rode about 10 miles without using the rear brake at all. When I checked, the rear rotor was hot enough that you couldn't touch it without getting burned.
That might be a bit too hot, yeah.. even if rear scooter tires tend to get
very hot under normal use.

Try a top speed run, then you'll know for sure.
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:12 AM   #156
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That might be a bit too hot, yeah.. even if rear scooter tires tend to get
very hot under normal use.

Try a top speed run, then you'll know for sure.
I had a front brake dragging on my R1100GS. Although I could ride it, the front brake got real hot. I put it on the centerstand and could not turn the front wheel by hand. This happened in the middle of nowhere and I couldn't get the brake to release. I ended up removing one front disc just to be able to ride it home(I still had one disc working up front) . The dealer fixed it by rebuilding the caliper.


Try putting your scooter on the centerstand and see how hard it is to spin the rear tire. Also, after it is hot, try seeing if there is pressure built up in the line by releasing one of the bleed nipples.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:31 AM   #157
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I did not know that stuck calipers were as common as they are until it happened on my car. It seems that a little rust and deposits will build up over time on the outside of the piston and lock it in the bore. I had to take a brass brush to the piston to remove the deposits to make it slide into the bore smoothly again.

Good tip to check if the wheel spins freely. You should hear some slight scrapes from the pads but it should be easy to turn.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #158
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A wheel with a disc brake should turn freely if the brake is not applied. Yes you will hear a scraping sound from the brakes, but that's it. No real drag, not enough to cause heat. I can easily spin the front wheels on all my scooters. The rear wheels are a bit harder to turn because of the CVT drive parts, and all my scooters have drum rear brakes. If the disc gets to hot to touch, there is something wrong. There are 2 common possibilities. one is a stuck caliper, probably caused by corrosion or gunk buildup. The other is a plugged fluid return passage in the master cylinder, preventing the release of fluid pressure. Could also be both.
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Old 08-04-2013, 02:20 PM   #159
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A wheel with a disc brake should turn freely if the brake is not applied. Yes you will hear a scraping sound from the brakes, but that's it. No real drag, not enough to cause heat. I can easily spin the front wheels on all my scooters. The rear wheels are a bit harder to turn because of the CVT drive parts, and all my scooters have drum rear brakes. If the disc gets to hot to touch, there is something wrong. There are 2 common possibilities. one is a stuck caliper, probably caused by corrosion or gunk buildup. The other is a plugged fluid return passage in the master cylinder, preventing the release of fluid pressure. Could also be both.
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Some people don't wash their scoots and never change the brake fluid
until a problem appears.. so it could be either of those two or both.
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:23 PM   #160
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Has anyone ridden their GTi300 up a fairly steep grade, and how did it do?
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:01 AM   #161
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Has anyone ridden their GTi300 up a fairly steep grade, and how did it do?
It did like any other 28-30hp scooter out there.

If you need better climbing ability, you can always use lighter Dr Pulley
sliders.

It'll outrun a Beverly (BV300) up a 10% hill here 2up, and BV300 was 1up.
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Old 08-11-2013, 04:56 PM   #162
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I haven't really taken a good look at that rear brake, but will when time permits. My MPG is staying in the mid 60's, not as good as Kentucky gets and he's running faster speeds than I normally ride. Thanks for all the input guys, like the fact that it will hammer the BV300. Wonder how the BV350 would stand up to the GTi?
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Old 08-12-2013, 02:35 AM   #163
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I haven't really taken a good look at that rear brake, but will when time permits. My MPG is staying in the mid 60's, not as good as Kentucky gets and he's running faster speeds than I normally ride. Thanks for all the input guys, like the fact that it will hammer the BV300. Wonder how the BV350 would stand up to the GTi?
The BV350 is a bit faster without a doubt.

It's not a big difference, but there is one.
I felt that the BV350 accelerated like my Downtown 300 with Malosi Multivar
CVT. Never went over 65mph on the BV350, and that's where there should
be a bigger difference.

Traction control also worked nice.
Also, that clutch on the BV350 is amazing.

Everything else - the GTi is IMHO a better bike.
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:22 PM   #164
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Finally bought one of these beauties in the love-it-or-hate-it gold color. Wow, what a scoot! Took it to one of my favorite mountain roads with lots of curves quickly climbing from 4500 feet to over 7000 on Sunday. With it's low center of gravity, great power, smooth "always in the right gear" CVT transmission - I think I can make better time on it than my Stelvio!

As others have mentioned the fit & finish and overall quality is impressive. Other than the funky "People" emblems (which I easily removed) and no easy ability to adjust the angle of the brake levers, there is so much to love about this jewel!
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:37 PM   #165
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What kind of foot room is there on the 300. My dealer won't bring any in so I haven't had a chance to sit on one.

I wear a size 11-12. I've sat on the old People 200 and it was a bit cramped footwise, is the floorboard on this one larger?
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