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Old 06-10-2013, 09:47 AM   #136
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Not sure what is happening but the pics will show. It is like there is a harder compound in the center and is wearing very slowly compared to the sides. Any ideas?


Looks like regular old cupping to me - maybe a bit odd looking visually due to the way the tread is cut
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:52 PM   #137
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I ran Bridgestone S-11"s on my street bikes for years from a lil Suzuki 550 all the way up to my 1200 Goldwing . I love that tire ! Sticky in the switchbacks & great mileage .

It was a dual compound tire . You Could actually see where the two compounds were bonded and almost different shades of rubber . The lines were very straight at the bond tho .

But Michelin ... Who knows very possible ...........
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:36 AM   #138
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Just ran my rear Anakee 3 from Vancouver to Moab, Vegas, San Diego, then back up the coast. 8000km/5000mi on them now. Road in all kinds of temps and conditions as you could imagine. They performed as advertised for sure. Surprised how decent they are off road. Had to try to get them to break loose on dry fire roads. I try not to ride the big GS off road in the rain (I know this sometime can't be avoided). No good in the sand but that was expected. Showing similar wear pattern as a few fellow inmates however, and since day one have had a weird 'vibration' when driving over uneven pavement. Almost felt like my traction control comes on? Best way to describe it. Anyone else feeling this. Anyway it has toned down as they wear. I've just chalked it up to the tread pattern. Other than this they have performed great! No "holy shit" moments. Gotta like that!
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:15 PM   #139
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I just mounted a set on my GS last Thursday. I kow that they will fair well on asphalt. Now I want to do some gravel and see if the tread design really works.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:41 PM   #140
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Anakee #3

I have been running Anakee 2 tires for a long time. Went with the Anakee 3s this time. I read where they are not supposed to cup as bad. I guess we will find out. I do notice a "thrumming" sensation in the hand grips. Not real bad but, it feels like I am riding over small grooves or raised bumps in the road at highway speeds. It is like riding over on the shoulder and riding over the warning bumps with out the noise and not nearly as bad. They have some what of a knobby tire feel to them although you wouldn't imagine it by looking at the tread. The tread dept is the deepest I have ever seen 10/32". My hopes are getting more milage than the Anakee 2s and without the fron tire cupping. I have been getting 11,000 miles out of a rear and 25,000 miles from the front. The front should have been thrown away at 15,000 miles due to the cupping. I go two rears to one front. It is tough some times to tolerate the vibes from a cupped front tire. Will continue to post about the tires as they gain more milage.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:40 PM   #141
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Anakee 3's - Umm... Thanks, anyway.

This Spring I tried a set of Anakee 3's on my F800GS. This is the new Michelin dual sport design that replaces the long-time favorite Anakee 2. Both are radials.

Lots of pavement traction, but I sensed a labored feeling, and my average mileage dropped to 50 MPG.


L to R: TKC80, Anakee 2, TKC80, Anakee 3

Just had the TKC80's installed, and my average MPG just jumped back to 57 MPG!

My previous favorite tire combination of TKC80 front and Anakee2 rear had always settled in at about 56 MPG.

That's more than a 10% hit in mileage for that new tire design. Dang...

So, the mystery of high-rolling-resistance solved. Didn't see any mention of that in the Anakee 3 reviews. What am I always the only one to discover these things?

They tell me that the Anakee 2's are now discontinued. I snagged one of the two remaining that my dealer had, but when that's gone, I'll be searching for a new favorite.

For what it's worth...

Greg

Oh, yeah... The Anakee 3's are buzzier new than the TKC80's are! Of course, the TKC80's, which are quite smooth when new, get more buzzy (on pavement, of course) as they wear down, particularly the rear.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:58 PM   #142
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That's odd. I went from Pilot Trail 3's to Anakee II's to now a set of Anakee III's. I saw no difference in MPG on any of them....

Mine were on my '12 GSA 1200.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:27 PM   #143
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That's odd. I went from Pilot Trail 3's to Anakee II's to now a set of Anakee III's. I saw no difference in MPG on any of them....

Mine were on my '12 GSA 1200.
I just got the best mileage I've ever gotten on my Tiger 800XC on a 2000+ km trip running Anakee 3s. 62mpg Imperial.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:59 PM   #144
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I have a hard time believing a 10%+ change in fuel mileage from a tire, 2-3% maybe.
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:43 PM   #145
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I have a hard time believing a 10%+ change in fuel mileage from a tire, 2-3% maybe.
Yeah...unless the overall circumference of the tires was different resulting in a PERCEIVED drastic change in MPG.

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Old 07-03-2013, 10:06 AM   #146
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At the prompting of my son, I measured, as accurately as I could, the diameters of all three styles. All the same.

Also, less peppy / labored engine should track in the opposite direction as worse mileage (shorter or taller final ratio) due to a diameter difference. I had both with the 3's -- perceptibly worse pep and worse mileage.

Same tire pressure as always.

---Just reporting what I have measured. 2000 miles on the 3's. Switch to other tires and the word jump is a proper description of the immediate increase in mileage.

Too grippy a tread design? That's all I can conclude. It is different from most tires, with lots of grooves nearly at right angles to the direction of travel.

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Old 07-11-2013, 10:05 AM   #147
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It is hard to conceive your findings. Wondering what other factors there could be? Never the less, your report is appreciated.
Thanks.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:49 AM   #148
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OK, my face is red. I was premature in my post, because I should have accumulated more mileage before my conclusion. The average mpg reading on this trip computer function starts high, then works its way down to equilibrium. It looked like it had leveled out at ~57 mpg, but with further riding, the mpg for the new tires also dipped down to the low level of ~50mpg.

My apologies to Michelin and others.

But I now am confident of the real reason for my reduced mpg, and see the numbers rising to confirm that----
At my last service (2k miles ago) when I got the Anakee 3's installed, they also changed my oil. A&S BMW had decided to switch everything to Amsoil 20w-50 synthetic. Sounded like a good idea to me, so I said 'yes.'

I had previously been running 10w-40 Castrol GTX. Well, I just replaced that 20w-50 with my previous choice, and I think I'm back to "normal." It would seem that it just takes too much power to pump that heavier oil through this engine. Must have crossed some threshold, because I don't think it's a linear response (that is, I don't think 10w-30 would further elevate the numbers - not that I'd consider it anyway).

The reason I think my most recent conclusion is valid is that as the average number is "built" (accumulated data), I saw it start high, then dip down to 53-ish, and with continued riding, it's climbing up through 55 mpg again, as the values oscillate on their way to equilibrium.

The synthetic oil may be slippery, but too heavy cancels out that effect, causing the engine to labor.

Just heading out on another 3k mile trip, so I'll get another varied-terrain test.

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Old 07-11-2013, 07:59 PM   #149
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OK, my face is red. I was premature in my post, because I should have accumulated more mileage before my conclusion. The average mpg reading on this trip computer function starts high, then works its way down to equilibrium. It looked like it had leveled out at ~57 mpg, but with further riding, the mpg for the new tires also dipped down to the low level of ~50mpg.

My apologies to Michelin and others.

But I now am confident of the real reason for my reduced mpg, and see the numbers rising to confirm that----
At my last service (2k miles ago) when I got the Anakee 3's installed, they also changed my oil. A&S BMW had decided to switch everything to Amsoil 20w-50 synthetic. Sounded like a good idea to me, so I said 'yes.'

I had previously been running 10w-40 Castrol GTX. Well, I just replaced that 20w-50 with my previous choice, and I think I'm back to "normal." It would seem that it just takes too much power to pump that heavier oil through this engine. Must have crossed some threshold, because I don't think it's a linear response (that is, I don't think 10w-30 would further elevate the numbers - not that I'd consider it anyway).

The reason I think my most recent conclusion is valid is that as the average number is "built" (accumulated data), I saw it start high, then dip down to 53-ish, and with continued riding, it's climbing up through 55 mpg again, as the values oscillate on their way to equilibrium.

The synthetic oil may be slippery, but too heavy cancels out that effect, causing the engine to labor.

Just heading out on another 3k mile trip, so I'll get another varied-terrain test.

Greg
You had me going there! Thanks for the post and all the good info. Get us some pics of those tires in action!
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:32 AM   #150
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I have a couple thousand miles on my Anakee IIIs. I've read some not so good reviews but I love mine. Great for road and decent off road which is what I expected. They suck on long wet grass though but pretty much anything does.
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