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Old 06-01-2013, 06:52 PM   #16
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intervalves...unless you have money to burn....I've got about 24K on mine and valves are staying adjusted just fine. Bought all my stuff as a kit from Motobins, but also did the rod bearings since I was in there. Check your rings too. Buy the complete kit from them it will be cheaper.,
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Old 06-02-2013, 08:19 AM   #17
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:07 PM   #18
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Okay... The heads have been taken down to Motor Works in National City. Yeah the guys that did my transmission and advertise in AirMail.
I took the Barrels along to for them to take a look at. I'm supposed to hear back tomorrow on the news and quote.

Old guy that owns the shop looked at the barrels and suggested doing the assembly old school: new rings, honed cylinders, saw the recessed valves and all.

So... I've done the homework before and relooked it all over again. Honing on Nikasil is a argument, which valves to go with is an argument, sourcing Rings?, then the argument of breaking in the bike. Might as well throw it all in along with the type of 'sert to use.

Kidding.. sort of. I'm getting a jig and I'm not telling which one. But I'd appreciate thoughts on:
1) honing?
2) sourcing rings (OEM? From whom?)
3) after I get the bike together I'll ask the breaking in argument.

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Old 06-18-2013, 07:24 AM   #19
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ball hone, OEM rings and intervalves, with uprated guides....eventhough the BMW valves aren't that much higher at Motobins...so I guess that's your call.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:03 PM   #20
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ball hone, OEM rings and intervalves, with uprated guides....eventhough the BMW valves aren't that much higher at Motobins...so I guess that's your call.
Uprated guides? meaning? Sorry as I'm not as educated on this sort of things as I could be. Thanks for everyones contribution... can't be happier to have folks on here help.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:19 PM   #21
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Uprated guides? meaning? Sorry as I'm not as educated on this sort of things as I could be. Thanks for everyones contribution... can't be happier to have folks on here help.
Better fitting guides. BMW, rather than fitting guides to the valves, uses a one-size-fits-all approach which rarely results in valve to guide clearances that most would consider ideal. Most head shops will start with guides that are too small and then size them to the valve stem for a tighter fit.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:58 PM   #22
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Better fitting guides. BMW, rather than fitting guides to the valves, uses a one-size-fits-all approach which rarely results in valve to guide clearances that most would consider ideal. Most head shops will start with guides that are too small and then size them to the valve stem for a tighter fit.
Roger that... thanks. Shop supposedly calling me today. Jig coming next week. Time to get things together.
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:46 AM   #23
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....from Jeff here. Used a similar one recently and it was a breeze. Remove the stud by locking 2 nuts together.

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How did you test for oil flow without the heads on it??
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:05 AM   #24
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Roger that... thanks. Shop supposedly calling me today. Jig coming next week. Time to get things together.
Curious to know what all you found out.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:46 PM   #25
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How did you test for oil flow without the heads on it??
Oil runs down the studs to feed the rockers. you can watch it come out where the stud enters the block by just spinning the motor by hand.
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Oil runs down the studs to feed the rockers. you can watch it come out where the stud enters the block by just spinning the motor by hand.
I knew the oil flow, but I'd never done it with the engine not being assembled and just the covers off. So just a hand spin ... good to know, thanks!
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:57 AM   #27
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I knew the oil flow, but I'd never done it with the engine not being assembled and just the covers off. So just a hand spin ... good to know, thanks!
I was just covering my ass and making sure I didn't leave any burrs in the feed hole.

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Old 06-27-2013, 08:07 PM   #28
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Motobins... after a delay.. are reportedly sending the parts over. Today's mail included the jig from Cycleworks. I searched Youtube for a video... besides one where the timesert is going in at a shop.. no love. Anyone know of one that's out there?

I'm after a 13/32 drill bit tomorrow then trying to sort all this after I run power "over the river and through the woods" to my parking spot.

I've watched a couple of videos of helicoil repairs, they sometimes thread them in tang first, sometimes tang last. Usually with a shaft that turns the tang driving in the coil, then snappin' off the coil.
The kit came instead with what looks like a shortened cylinder stud that treads into the helicoil ...anyone else familiar with it?
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Motobins... after a delay.. are reportedly sending the parts over. Today's mail included the jig from Cycleworks. I searched Youtube for a video... besides one where the timesert is going in at a shop.. no love. Anyone know of one that's out there?

I'm after a 13/32 drill bit tomorrow then trying to sort all this after I run power "over the river and through the woods" to my parking spot.

I've watched a couple of videos of helicoil repairs, they sometimes thread them in tang first, sometimes tang last. Usually with a shaft that turns the tang driving in the coil, then snappin' off the coil.
The kit came instead with what looks like a shortened cylinder stud that treads into the helicoil ...anyone else familiar with it?
Try Marshall's Industrial Hardware off Miramar Road for the bit if you can't find it at a big box store. They're almost sure to have it.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:32 AM   #30
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Try Marshall's Industrial Hardware off Miramar Road for the bit if you can't find it at a big box store. They're almost sure to have it.
Oh... already on that page, Marshall's is the best. Actually stumped them when I went for the 10mm Triple square. Half tempted to take the one I have there - they probably have it but didn't know.
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