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Old 06-19-2013, 10:05 PM   #77746
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Here's a link to Adam Lewis's (JediMaster) blog about his world wide motorcycle adventures: http://shortwayround.co.uk/

He began his journey on a F650, but later switched to the DR650. Be sure to check out his section about bike prep. Lots of great info there about what worked for him and what didn't. Good stuff.
Here are a few other RTW reports featuring the DR650
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=DR650+Baja
Jammin Jay
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=DR650+Baja
Big Al Smith
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...50+Baja&page=3
Jedi Master S. America
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=DR650+Baja
Lars from Joberg (girl friend riding DR650)
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=DR650+Baja
Air Borne Andy
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=DR650+Baja
evermore
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=DR650+Baja
Girl Friend on DR/Husband on KLR
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=jedimaster
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:20 PM   #77747
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AG - Is this true? What years ? My impression as of 2010 was that Suzuki still didn't care.

My new 09 was ridden 60 miles in late 09, then sat in pieces in the garage until mid 11 when I did the NSU. Mine were barely finger tight on the upper screw and two-finger tight on the lower screw.

I removed the clutch basket, degreased, and did it properly - belts and suspenders - with both Loctite and safety wired allen heads. 6000 miles later and of course no problems. Headed back out this fall ...

Thanks.
I'm really just going on what various members here have said here on this thread over the last couple years. Not staggering numbers but there have been a few claiming they found previously used Phillips bolts were now Allen/Hex bolts ... but that they were also TIGHT. Who knew?

On my '06 ... (in about '07) they were just barely snug. I simply backed them out, added Loc Tite and tightened them as much as I dare. That was about 40,000 miles ago. Maybe I should check on them one of these days?
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:35 PM   #77748
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6'3 185 lbs, plan on riding single track in my backyard with the nephews (going very slow). ADV rides which will consist of 40% gravel and dirt roads, 30% highway and 30% single/jeep trails. Planning numerous 2-3 day rides which means I will be packing my gear (~30lbs) doing the above type riding.

Owned a 2005 KLR and did a few weekend rides. My opinion was it was too big, heavy and lethargic.

Budget is ~$3500.

Shooting from the hip, DRZ400, DR650 or be patient and find a TE610?
At 6'3" you may be inclined to either lower the pegs or get a "tall" seat ... or both? The DR650 feels quite a bit smaller ... and LIGHTER than a KLR.
(I've owned both). It's also a better trail bike and handles better ON and OFF road, IMHO. But a very well set up KLR can be much better than a stock one. Same with a good DR ... so much better than stock. Nothing but money.

It needs a better seat and upgraded suspension to be it's best. Still may not match the 610/630 or Terra in a race, but I guarantee the DR will get there without mechanical issues ... and for the next five years.
Also, MUCH better on highway at a steady 75 mph for 10 hours a day.

Good gravel/dirt road handler, slides OK in flat track mode. Fair trail bike.
Packs up better than the KLR .... no broken bolts or sub frames.
Way stronger than the 610 but not as much fun when Roosting.
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:49 PM   #77749
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Thanks for compiling those ... Saved for future reference . Love seeing the DR in action...
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:08 PM   #77750
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244 rear with an IRC TR8 is my long-lasting & even wear out 50/50 dual sport combo of choice. from MSS $60 for the 244 and $65 for the TR8, so $125 shipped for the set!

...I've done a TKC-80 front ($117) & Mefo Explorer rear ($145) or $262 combo. NOT worth over over 2x the price these days IMO. the TR8 works & lasts just like the TCK-80 and the Mefo is NOT getting 2x the life of the 244 yet is more than 2x the price. When the Mefo was $100 way back when it was worth it.

TR8/244 rules for DR dual-sport riding!
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That new IRC TR-8 will be my next front tire. I remember you mentioned it months ago. I've not been dirt riding my DR at all lately so my current knobby fronts are still more or less OK. But the IRC will be next up! Thanks again for the Tip!
I just heard about the TR8's recently and a buddy is running the TR8 and Heidenau K60 rear on his Tiger 800. I didn't realize the TR8 was so reasonably priced, but I will look into that for the next set as a front tire. I can see the 244 rear working very well with that too.
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:24 PM   #77751
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Hi fellow advriders,

Just bought a 2008 DR650SE with 34500km, it's the bike I always wanted since I got back into biking, really enjoying the bike, but only done commuting till now...time for some adventure!!!






Farkles to be added:
- New front tire (Kings KT966)
- New rear tire (probably a Mitas E07 or C02)
- long range tank (any suggestions?)
- Louder pipe
- New bars (Pro-taper)
- Screen (DIY)

Thanks for all the great tips and advice on the forum.

Cheers,
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:24 AM   #77752
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6'3 185 lbs, plan on riding single track in my backyard with the nephews (going very slow). ADV rides which will consist of 40% gravel and dirt roads, 30% highway and 30% single/jeep trails. Planning numerous 2-3 day rides which means I will be packing my gear (~30lbs) doing the above type riding.

Owned a 2005 KLR and did a few weekend rides. My opinion was it was too big, heavy and lethargic.

Budget is ~$3500.

Shooting from the hip, DRZ400, DR650 or be patient and find a TE610?
IMO the DRZ400 is a better dirt bike but the DR650 is a better all round bike. The 400 is a bit busy for any distance travel.

A friend is selling a primo TE610 with an extra set of wheels but it's in NE Tennessee, a long way from Kansas City and a few hundred more than your budget. PM me if you want contact info.
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:58 AM   #77753
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Hmmm...
I wonder what the unbiased participants in this thread will suggest...

I'll start.

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Posed the same question in the DRZ thread!

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At 6'3" you may be inclined to either lower the pegs or get a "tall" seat ... or both? The DR650 feels quite a bit smaller ... and LIGHTER than a KLR.
(I've owned both). It's also a better trail bike and handles better ON and OFF road, IMHO. But a very well set up KLR can be much better than a stock one. Same with a good DR ... so much better than stock. Nothing but money.

It needs a better seat and upgraded suspension to be it's best. Still may not match the 610/630 or Terra in a race, but I guarantee the DR will get there without mechanical issues ... and for the next five years.
Also, MUCH better on highway at a steady 75 mph for 10 hours a day.

Good gravel/dirt road handler, slides OK in flat track mode. Fair trail bike.
Packs up better than the KLR .... no broken bolts or sub frames.
Way stronger than the 610 but not as much fun when Roosting.
Thanks for the info. I'm still concerned about it's single track performance. Even if I am going slow, I know there will be some evenings I want to go light up the trails.

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IMO the DRZ400 is a better dirt bike but the DR650 is a better all round bike. The 400 is a bit busy for any distance travel.

A friend is selling a primo TE610 with an extra set of wheels but it's in NE Tennessee, a long way from Kansas City and a few hundred more than your budget. PM me if you want contact info.
I'm leaning towards the DRZ just a bit due to it's off road ability and seat height. Any thoughts on the new(ish) wide aftermarket gear set you can add?

Also, send me some info on that te610, if you don't mind. Thanks.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:07 AM   #77754
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I see you also have the side cover tab outside the normal location, inside the rear fender piece. Was that necessary for clearance?
No, just lazy.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:32 AM   #77755
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No, just lazy.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:11 AM   #77756
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Sorry for the dumb question;

This is going up for sale, but I dont know how to read the spring rate.

Help

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Old 06-20-2013, 09:31 AM   #77757
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You can say the DR650 feels nimble, especially compared to bigger ADV bikes. It's certainly more trail capable than any heavier bike. But it only feels nimble until it doesn't, then if feels like an anvil. So upright and rolling, as long as you can pick and stick to your line, it works great. Combine steep with loose or large anything (like rocks, ruts, roots etc.) and you'll want more choices than what single track offers. I figure mine is a good trail bike, as long as it's a jeep or ATV trail.

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Posed the same question in the DRZ thread!



Thanks for the info. I'm still concerned about it's single track performance. Even if I am going slow, I know there will be some evenings I want to go light up the trails.



I'm leaning towards the DRZ just a bit due to it's off road ability and seat height. Any thoughts on the new(ish) wide aftermarket gear set you can add?

Also, send me some info on that te610, if you don't mind. Thanks.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:19 AM   #77758
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You can say the DR650 feels nimble, especially compared to bigger ADV bikes. It's certainly more trail capable than any heavier bike. But it only feels nimble until it doesn't, then if feels like an anvil. So upright and rolling, as long as you can pick and stick to your line, it works great. Combine steep with loose or large anything (like rocks, ruts, roots etc.) and you'll want more choices than what single track offers. I figure mine is a good trail bike, as long as it's a jeep or ATV trail.
+1

My DR reached out and touched someone. (me) I was standing on the pegs going down a loose rock jeep road. (think softball - bowling balls) The front suspension (I have emulators and .47 springs) did some weird boingo and the bike was in the air, on it's side and promptly landed frame first on my ankle and a rock, in that order. Ow! Big purple bruise that still is tender a month later.

This is the first time it's really pulled something like that, but it's made me a bit gun-shy. It was my fault for trying to keep up with plated racebikes
( XR650R & a KTM)in that section. Know the bike's limits and it's a fantastic bike.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:40 AM   #77759
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You can say the DR650 feels nimble, especially compared to bigger ADV bikes. It's certainly more trail capable than any heavier bike. But it only feels nimble until it doesn't, then if feels like an anvil. So upright and rolling, as long as you can pick and stick to your line, it works great. Combine steep with loose or large anything (like rocks, ruts, roots etc.) and you'll want more choices than what single track offers. I figure mine is a good trail bike, as long as it's a jeep or ATV trail.
IMO, the above is a pretty accurate summation of the DR650's ability on technical single track. Bottom line is: It ain't great. For me, at 65, it's a handful. 20 years ago I might have been able to handle it. These days I take it easy or avoid such trails.

A talented rider could make the DR650 work in very tough conditions. We see this with our Brothers Down Under. These young guys are super talented. But for more average non competitive riders the DR can be a handful in super steep, loose, muddy or generally knarly single track.

These days I can barely make such trails on my little WR250F ... the DR is simply beyond my skill level in tough conditions.

In the Desert, the DR650 does better. (at least for me). With the right tires it seems to plow through deep sand pretty well. I suck as a sand rider ... so if I can do it, I'm guessing most average riders can too.

But on open two track, Desert tracks and fast dirt roads the DR650 is awesome.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:48 AM   #77760
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Yea, someone like Rolf Tibblin. Big, tough and talented.

I even got to train with him but I had no illusions about wrangling a heavy, poorly suspended bike around a motocross track. For some reason, maybe 1970 or 71, the shop I rode for wanted me to promote a BSA Victor 441 at a local motocross. I was leery and took it out for a test ride. After a few tentative laps I decided to see what it could do. I promptly learned it could thrash me like a rag doll. That beast gave me the worst neck snapping, shoulder wrenching tank slapper thrashing ever. Scarred me bad. Once I got it shut down I cursed it and vowed to never ride such a monster again. Race it? Not a chance.

I really enjoy the DR650 but treat it with due respect.

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