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Old 06-23-2013, 02:57 PM   #77866
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Greetings and salutations. I mounted a pair of D606's to my 2011 DR and threw the Trailwings in the corner. I went for a ride yesterday, and at 55 mph. on the freeway the bike felt VERY unstable. 28psi front 26 psi rear (35 psi @ max load described on tire). The Trail wings were stable on road and slippery off. I had a 180 mi. day yesterday with 40 on freeway the rest on fire roads. Off road the bike felt more stable standing up, and twitchy seated. Bumps at freeway speeds (on freeway) would induce a wobble and I would never want to ride without both hands gripped. I would prefer this style of riding
So, should I pull the front and re-check the balance? Re-pressurize at a different value, check the forks? (I did buy the DR new from a Dealer but the front turn signals were wired wrong and the headlamp not plugged in so I am not sure if there was an issue at the time I bought it.) The front end has seemed fine before I mounted these 606's. Thanks in advance for insight o' knowledgable ones.
Adjust tire pressure to values in manual. Experiment from there.

Make sure that the forks aren't slid up in the clamps.

Adjust sag/preload to values in manual. Experiment from there.

Orient tires on rims for best balance, then add Ride-On or Dynabeads.
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Old 06-23-2013, 03:03 PM   #77867
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I do. Why limit yourself to one bike?
I have more than one, but I typically ride only one of them at a time.
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:05 PM   #77868
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I have more than one, but I typically ride only one of them at a time.
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:19 PM   #77869
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Let's keep that on the DL. Oh wait, ya'll already made a map. Too late!
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:24 PM   #77870
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I have more than one, but I typically ride only one of them at a time.
In my "formative" years, having two meant assessing which one was rideable and which would remain in a state of disrepair. Once both were inop, the easiest to fix would win. At some point I realized that my definition of "rideable" was beginning to include issues such as no brakes or lights. That's when I went down to only one bike. On that bike I was pulled over by the cops and first heard the descriptive term "riding without a vehicle".
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:29 PM   #77871
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Adjust tire pressure to values in manual. Experiment from there.

Make sure that the forks aren't slid up in the clamps.

Adjust sag/preload to values in manual. Experiment from there.

Orient tires on rims for best balance, then add Ride-On or Dynabeads.
I know this is subjective but I'm gonna say the problem is the 606 front. I have grown to not like that tire. I started with 606s and didn't know any better. Eventually I read about people talking about low speed almost-washouts and the like with the 606 front and decided to try a 606 rear and an mt21 front. That combo works perfect for me.

Because I can't plan for shit and I'm thousands of miles from home, I buy tires at shops when I need them. All the last shop had for the front was a 606 so I took it- immediately I have the same washouts and such. Its stable for me on the street, and works good in mud, but I hate the 606 front in gravel. Its also directional which sucks because you can't flip the tire to extend its life once you wear off the edges.

As always, ymmv. Others like the 606 front and it may have a bunch to do with your riding style
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:32 PM   #77872
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In my "formative" years, having two meant assessing which one was rideable and which would remain in a state of disrepair. Once both were inop, the easiest to fix would win. At some point I realized that my definition of "rideable" was beginning to include issues such as no brakes or lights. That's when I went down to only one bike. On that bike I was pulled over by the cops and first heard the descriptive term "riding without a vehicle".
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Old 06-23-2013, 05:57 PM   #77873
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I know this is subjective but I'm gonna say the problem is the 606 front. I have grown to not like that tire. I started with 606s and didn't know any better. Eventually I read about people talking about low speed almost-washouts and the like with the 606 front and decided to try a 606 rear and an mt21 front. That combo works perfect for me.

Because I can't plan for shit and I'm thousands of miles from home, I buy tires at shops when I need them. All the last shop had for the front was a 606 so I took it- immediately I have the same washouts and such. Its stable for me on the street, and works good in mud, but I hate the 606 front in gravel. Its also directional which sucks because you can't flip the tire to extend its life once you wear off the edges.

As always, ymmv. Others like the 606 front and it may have a bunch to do with your riding style
I have read so many comments about the 606 as well and I have never added my own. Well, I agree with you and I think the 606 up front is a horrible tire. I am going to leave it at that before someone tells me to STFU.......
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:04 PM   #77874
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I found a new Green DR650 for $4998 in the East Ohio Auto and RV ad paper if anybody is interested
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:10 PM   #77875
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:14 PM   #77876
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:21 PM   #77877
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New? Green?
It looked green in the pics, it was a new DR650 for $4998
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:33 PM   #77878
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DR650 with 20k miles - Alaska and back?

Looking at buying a clean, well cared for 2003 DR650 with 22,000 miles. Would this be suitable for an Alaska trip "the hard way" - up the Cassiar. Actually I am a Canuck so I would like to take it to Tuktoyaktuk. Anyhoo - lots of gravel.

I dont have mega bucks and this baby is a good price, just not sure if its too old with too many miles.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:42 PM   #77879
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Looking at buying a clean, well cared for 2003 DR650 with 22,000 miles. Would this be suitable for an Alaska trip "the hard way" - up the Cassiar. Actually I am a Canuck so I would like to take it to Tuktoyaktuk. Anyhoo - lots of gravel.

I dont have mega bucks and this baby is a good price, just not sure if its too old with too many miles.
You never know, but i would trust it, i sold one with 52,000 miles on it, there is one down the road from where i live, i drive by it all the time, it has over 100,000 miles on it, all stock.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:54 PM   #77880
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Looking at buying a clean, well cared for 2003 DR650 with 22,000 miles. Would this be suitable for an Alaska trip "the hard way" - up the Cassiar. Actually I am a Canuck so I would like to take it to Tuktoyaktuk. Anyhoo - lots of gravel.

I dont have mega bucks and this baby is a good price, just not sure if its too old with too many miles.
Mine's done OK.

Replace the wheel bearings, cush hub bearing (and rubbers), chain, sprockets and ride for another 22k.

You should grease the steering head bearings and the rear suspension linkage pivot bearings and swingarm bearings.

If Cassiar is really the hard way, I'd recommend emulators and springs in the front and a Cogent shock in the rear. It will keep things from shaking themselves to bits on all the washboard you're going to be riding.
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