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Old 06-24-2013, 09:44 AM   #16
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Trip sensor does work it just cut it off very quickly
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:28 PM   #17
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Exhaust air valve?

I was looking at the (draft) wiring diagram and on page 9 (pin out 7 of the ECU) is a solenoid labeled "exhaust air valve". Does anyone know what this is?
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:15 AM   #18
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Exhaust air valve limits the exhaust throughput to maximize performance of the engine at different revs.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:55 AM   #19
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Mine didn't switch of. Not to the right, not to the left. And not to the left again
I drop mine 6 times. (Swampy road) only switch of ones.. after two other people helped me to get the bike out of a ditch
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:13 AM   #20
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Speed signal

A question to you electronic guys:

Im looking for the speedo signal (or better: the wire that carries it).
I need it for connecting an electronic chain oiler on my Adv 1190 R.

Wiring diagram or location and color of cable would be greatly appreciated.

Ive already tried to connect to the ABS-Sensor cables, but the signal seems to be not compatible.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:34 AM   #21
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A question to you electronic guys:

Im looking for the speedo signal (or better: the wire that carries it).
I need it for connecting an electronic chain oiler on my Adv 1190 R.

Wiring diagram or location and color of cable would be greatly appreciated.

Ive already tried to connect to the ABS-Sensor cables, but the signal seems to be not compatible.

Thanks in advance!
I just went through the draft wiring diagram and the only sensors I could see were the crank shaft and 2 ABS sensors. Both the ABS sensors go into the ABS unit.

As far as I can see there is no speedo sensor.

As a suggestion, put it on the center stand with the ignition on and spin the front and rear wheels and see what the speedo does.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:01 AM   #22
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Hi there!

1. When I change my shift lights, they stay at my settings until I change them, unaffected by ignition.
Have fun! I sure do!
Me too - set mine for 6500 rpm while running it in.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:50 AM   #23
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at least 990 gets it's spedo readyng from front ABS sensor....I don't think there was any reason for KTM to change that
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:14 AM   #24
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I just went through the draft wiring diagram and the only sensors I could see were the crank shaft and 2 ABS sensors. Both the ABS sensors go into the ABS unit.

As far as I can see there is no speedo sensor.

As a suggestion, put it on the center stand with the ignition on and spin the front and rear wheels and see what the speedo does.
Thats what I think (no need for an extra speed sensor, since you get the same information from the ABS sensors).
I just was wondering if the ABS signal is somehow "converted" by the ABS unit and then sent out via some extra wire going up to the dashboard - and that would be the signal Im looking for.
But with all these electronics aboard this is probably done by some sort of CAN-Bus communication.

Seems that I have to use an extra reed sensor then and have to find a proper place for that...
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:21 PM   #25
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Thats what I think (no need for an extra speed sensor, since you get the same information from the ABS sensors).
I just was wondering if the ABS signal is somehow "converted" by the ABS unit and then sent out via some extra wire going up to the dashboard - and that would be the signal Im looking for.
But with all these electronics aboard this is probably done by some sort of CAN-Bus communication.

Seems that I have to use an extra reed sensor then and have to find a proper place for that...

I'll have another look at the wiring between the ABS unit and the others later and post up what I find.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:04 AM   #26
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I've seen something like this before, when someone tried to manipulate the odometer. If there's sign of manipulation on the speed sensor or wiring, I wouldn't buy that bike for my life! Just sayin.
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:12 AM   #27
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According to the draft wiring diagram there are:
- two input power feeds running through the 15 and 25 amp fuses
- two earth wires
- two pairs from the front and rear wheel sensors
- one from the ignition (into pin 20)
- and two others that go else where pins 18 and 10

Pin 18 is labeled CANH and pin 10 CANL. These come from the ignition switch and are common with a whole bunch of other components.

So from the diagram nothing is obvious.

I then zoomed in and looked at all of the labels and there was nothing that I could see that seemed like speedo.

Is the CAN* thing a bus?

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Old 07-16-2013, 03:44 AM   #28
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According to the draft wiring diagram there are:
- two input power feeds running through the 15 and 25 amp fuses
- two earth wires
- two pairs from the front and rear wheel sensors
- one from the ignition (into pin 20)
- and two others that go else where pins 18 and 10

Pin 18 is labeled CANH and pin 10 CANL. These come from the ignition switch and are common with a whole bunch of other components.

So from the diagram nothing is obvious.

I then zoomed in and looked at all of the labels and there was nothing that I could see that seemed like speedo.

Is the CAN* thing a bus?
Yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_bus

As far as I know, its KTMs first use of this technology which is somehow common in the car industry.

Seems that this is not comparable to the KTM SMT for example (which also has ABS). On the SMT somebody used "Pin 3" on the dashboard input (orange/black) and this signal was compatible with the electronic chain oiler. Basically, "Hal sensor" and "Reed contact" are desribed as being compatible.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:49 PM   #29
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So it looks like the place to pick up can only be from the front or rear ABS sensors. This should still work though the signal level would be very low.

Edit:

Just had a realy quick look at the front, and there looks to be space to fit one of those bicycle speedo thingies, like the enduro riders fit to MX bikes.

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Old 07-19-2013, 06:24 PM   #30
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So it looks like the place to pick up can only be from the front or rear ABS sensors. This should still work though the signal level would be very low.
Its a CAN Bus system just like the BMW 1200's. Don't mess with the wiring.
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