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Old 06-27-2013, 07:37 AM   #1171
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I can't picture Kimi giving a rat's ass about the number 1/number 2 dynamic. I imagine him looking over at Seb and saying, "Oh, you're here?" the way he'd address a piece of furniture in the room.

For that matter, how well is "Leave me alone, I know what I'm doing" going to play in RBR?
Kimi would not care, but RBR management should care deeply.

We already know from earlier this season that RBR will not punish a driver who ignores team orders even when it puts both cars at risk. Webber's temperment fits a number 2 driver well. Neither Vettel nor Kimi is suited for that role. Sparks, both figurative and literal, would likely fly with both on the same team.

It would definitely be interesting.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:51 AM   #1172
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Adrian Sutil was asked if he's interested in the vacant Red Bull drive. His answer was 'why not?'
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:22 AM   #1173
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Raikkonen says he gets a lot of independence at Lotus, which is important to him
Raikkonen has also said he has not yet ruled out leaving F1 completely again at the end of the 2013 season
However, Raikkonen also said his chances of being in F1 next year are 'big' - so don't write him out just yet.

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seems Kimi will lead reporters on a merry chase. He seems to enjoy giving non-answers
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:24 AM   #1174
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Raikkonen says he gets a lot of independence at Lotus, which is important to him
Raikkonen has also said he has not yet ruled out leaving F1 completely again at the end of the 2013 season
However, Raikkonen also said his chances of being in F1 next year are 'big' - so don't write him out just yet.

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seems Kimi will lead reporters on a merry chase. He seems to enjoy giving non-answers
Kimi being Kimi.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:57 AM   #1175
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Want to get families to a F1 race it's got to be quieter, no bones about it. Want long term city courses its got to be quieter.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:11 AM   #1176
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For Raikkonen "it will not be easy, but it is never easy"

The Finn has to decide his future driving plans in Formula 1 that now formally includes Red Bull.
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The Finn might leave Lotus for Red Bull, or even leave the category again. (LAT Photo)



SILVERSTONE, United Kingdom, June 27, 2013 (AFP) - Kimi Raikkonen said on Thursday that he would find it tough to choose between staying with Lotus or joining champions Red Bull as successor to Mark Webber at the end of this year -- if he is given the choice.
The 33-year-old Finn arrived at Silverstone on the eve of opening free practice for this weekend's British Grand Prix to be confronted by a barrage of media questions following Webber's announcement that he is leaving Formula One to join Porsche's sportscar racing team.
Raikkonen's contract with Lotus expires at the end of this year, but the 2007 world champion insisted he has not given any thought yet for the immediate future.
"Whatever the decision, it will not be easy, but it is never easy," he said. "It is not the first time that there are different options on the table,
and then you take the one that you think is right at that moment.
"So it is hard to say if it is the right or wrong decision and you have to live with it. Only you can make the decision yourself."
He said that Thursday's news of Webber's decision to leave Red Bull had made no difference to him.
"I still don't have an answer for what will happen next year, it hasn't changed in the last two races," he said.
"Obviously people will be talking about the chances more, but it doesn't really change what I will do next year or what my decisions are - even if there is an open place.
"I have no contract, which is normal in F1. I have nothing to inform people until there is something certain on paper and I will tell immediately because then everyone stops asking the same question. But until I have something done I cannot answer..."
Raikkonen returned to F1 with Lotus last year after a two-year spell in rallying.
He finished the championship in third place, winning the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix along the way. He started this season with a win at the Australian Grand Prix and is currently third in the standings.
He said Lotus had been just what he wanted.
"It has been perfect. Without them I wouldn't be back in F1," he said. "For sure they also got some good things out of it, so I have no complaints.
"Obviously there are certain things that have to improve, but I have had a great time with the team so far. That is why whatever the decision will be will be difficult."
Raikkonen admitted that his freedom at Lotus is an important consideration.
"It is one of the key points," he said. "Obviously you want to have a good car and certain things have to be right, but there are a lot of small things that have to be right for yourself.
"I've been around the business long enough to know what I want and if those things are not right then the decision might be different."
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:23 AM   #1177
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Best of luck to Webber. He is an easy guy to like with his work ethic. You can see ex-F1 guys all over the racing scene... and usually making it more exciting.

Kimi on a separate team is more entertaining... if the Infinity Red Bulls are a totally dominant car. Having them on the same team would give everyone a direct comparison to the quality of Vettel's skill.

It is hard not wonder if Red Bull purposely sandbagged Webber's car to keep the confrontations to a minimum. All the technical issues he has only had just bring it.

I just hope the competition can stay as interesting as last year.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:18 PM   #1178
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tech shot Thursday....
sorry I have been napping

Sauber with a few different wing styles (mainly camera placement, but other tweaks as well)





smaller monkey seat on Kimi's car
perhaps they will play with "the device" again this weekend?



Grosjean



corresponding "ear holes"





Williams with the dramatically curved wing



and interesting front wing variants

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Old 06-27-2013, 12:36 PM   #1179
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:58 PM   #1180
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:14 PM   #1181
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a ton more good tech shots here LINK from SomersF1 and Sutton Images

this one is especially interesting... you'd think more teams would do this?



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Red Bull RB9 Sidepod detail, note the Exhaust has been heat treated, likely a response to not wanting to open up more bodywork and inducing drag. Heat can also make a difference in terms of airflow and so this will make a difference to the way the air is worked around the Sidepod
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:47 AM   #1182
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damn Kimi... what's up w/ the haircut?
This may belong in the WTF thread....

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Old 06-28-2013, 10:52 AM   #1183
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:07 AM   #1184
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damn Kimi... what's up w/ the haircut?
This may belong in the WTF thread....

It looks like Kimi has been partying hard.
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:32 AM   #1185
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Like he lost a drunken bet. Kimi was way ahead of curve when he sported a flat bill on his cap. Maybe this hair thing is another trend that's coming?
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