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Old 06-28-2013, 03:08 PM   #16
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Amen to that!!!! Even saw that posted on a bike from a dealership (car dealership that got a bike on trade but a dealership none the less)

You would think they could grasp the concept of spending a couple hundred to get it sorted and then being able to ask quite a bit more.
A dealership has to PAY their employees to work on a bike, and could be that their mechanic doesn't know a damned thing about bikes. Or carbs. OTOH lots of guys here on ADV seem to value their time at zero. So if the dealership decides to give a try for letting it go cheap without investing the paid labor as well as the parts, I don't hold it against a car dealer to give it a try selling a bike that needs work "as-is".

Same as any other seller who doesn't do their own work for free. For them fixing up the bike isn't just the cost of parts, it's also the labor. But they might find a buyer who regards the cost as parts only. Or not. And if not, then it won't sell. And if it doesn't, it's not my problem, not a fuck is given.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:12 AM   #17
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Ever since shows like American Pickers (or whatever it's called) came out, people think garbage is gold!

It wasn't too long ago that you could buy old bikes that were running for less than $1 per cc, but not anymore. Now everything is "classic," "vintage," and "rare."

And, WTF is the deal with all the "no title, but would be easy to get" ads? If it's that easy, get the damn title for it!
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:48 AM   #18
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I don't see your point. If similar bike in better condition is sold on CL for $XXX
then whats the problem of listing yours for $XXX - price for parts needed.

Why I, as a seller, should invest more into the bike that I'm already selling, if at the end, every fucker out there is still gonna low ball me?

Don't like the price, move on, its an agreement of both parties.

I hate these people with self entitlement complex, who try to low ball expecting a cherry for a price of a junker.

Edit: Not only that, but if the bike needs parts or service, I'd rather get bike for cheaper and buy parts and work on it myself, knowing that the parts that are broken I will replace with quality parts, not some e-bay junk that will fail on me two weeks after the purchase. Same with service if its basic stuff like old battery, clogged up carb, etc.
As the buyer you have no fucking idea why the thing doesn't run. Dead battery? clogged carbs? Blown engine? If the problem is a battery and carbs, fix the stupid thing before you sell it. If you don't I have to asume you're either a liar or an idiot, or both. A bike that doesn't run is worth what you can part it out for, not a penny more.
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:50 AM   #19
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WTF is the deal with all the "no title, but would be easy to get" ads? If it's that easy, get the damn title for it!
Exactly. "No, it's not easy to get, you stupid fuck. If it was easy to get, you would have gotten it."
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:26 AM   #20
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As the buyer you have no fucking idea why the thing doesn't run. Dead battery? clogged carbs? Blown engine? If the problem is a battery and carbs, fix the stupid thing before you sell it. If you don't I have to asume you're either a liar or an idiot, or both. A bike that doesn't run is worth what you can part it out for, not a penny more.
The only problem with that argument is that you can part out just about any bike and get a better return than you would selling the unit complete.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:05 AM   #21
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Local CL, guy has had a BMW /6 ad going on 5 years now.

When it was first listed I emailed, no reply. Then I phoned,no reply.

He has trailered it to a couple swap meets over those years,price is absurd.

I presume if he lists it for long enough, the economy will catch up!
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:48 AM   #22
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The only problem with that argument is that you can part out just about any bike and get a better return than you would selling the unit complete.
That's interesting. it doesn't work that way in the US. You mnight get $500 for an engine, a few hundred for frame and wheels, nickels and dimes for the rest.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:38 AM   #23
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That's interesting. it doesn't work that way in the US. You mnight get $500 for an engine, a few hundred for frame and wheels, nickels and dimes for the rest.
Depends on the bike. I know a guy who makes more than beer money parting out KLRs. (You should not be surprised by that.)
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Old 06-30-2013, 12:38 PM   #24
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And, WTF is the deal with all the "no title, but would be easy to get" ads? If it's that easy, get the damn title for it!
Look at the bright side. If he's too lazy to get a title, you won't have to ask if the air filter has been cleaned in the last 10,000 miles.
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Old 07-01-2013, 04:04 PM   #25
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didn't you know that craigs list adds have nothing to due with the kbb price of the bike.
i am always amazed the the sellers don't realize their bike won't sell for more than $1000+
above kbb. i have seen bikes on cl for over a year.
kbb doesn't set prices for motorcycles. A motorcycle is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Don't like the asking price? Make a reasonable offer! The SELLER can then say YES or NO. If it is NO then your reasonable offer is NOT reasonable to the seller. Step up or move on.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:16 PM   #26
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Local CL, guy has had a BMW /6 ad going on 5 years now.

When it was first listed I emailed, no reply. Then I phoned,no reply.

He has trailered it to a couple swap meets over those years,price is absurd.

I presume if he lists it for long enough, the economy will catch up!
Same here - total basket-case R90 in the back of my bud's m/c shop - been there at least 3 years, never ran, needs everything serviced ( brake masters seized, etc) - aside from being fairly complete, it's basically a corroded lump. Of course, it is a "CLASSIC" and he expects $ 4 k....
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:33 PM   #27
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Looked at an old TS 185 a few weeks ago.
Not a bad bike, ran but needed TLC.

Tires worn out and dry rotted, some tears in the seat.
Typical old bike stuff, not a big deal.

Price? $1K Didn't really want to talk about taking any less than that.

I was thinking $250-350 would have been fair.

Here is an example, cool bike I think.
But I don't think it's $4K worth of cool.
http://morgantown.craigslist.org/mcy/3906683155.html
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:55 PM   #28
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Here is an example, cool bike I think.
But I don't think it's $4K worth of cool.
http://morgantown.craigslist.org/mcy/3906683155.html

So offer him $3k
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:02 PM   #29
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Wouldn't give $3K for it, not very useful for me.
Garage is full at the moment anyway.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:40 AM   #30
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I got a cherry 2007 KLR with 5K miles on it, and almost all necessary farkles like crash guards, new petcock and air filter, plus luggage for 2400 bucks. I see great entry level bikes like ' 08GS 500's for $1300 asking price and I got a KLR Tengai which was a heap but more or less has everything for $175 bucks...

Just don't buy the bikes that aren't good deals...
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